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For whatever the reason, John Conboy considered sprucing up his new show’s opening a priority. Conboy touted the show's new opening "wanted to capture the essence of the classic Knots Landing theme from the 80’s," but of course whoever produced it was too lazy/cheap to get it right or whatever ideal opening they had in mind. I’m aware that one of the people involved in creating the opening threw a hissy fit of sorts after seeing it dissected on the old WOST message boards. (Of course, if you really worked hard, should you be bragging about how easy it is to change the opening by going on to your hard drive?) I definitely agree with you on the lighthouse or some form of light should at least be seen in GL's openings, just like the hourglass on Days or the globe on ATWT(it was a bit jarring not seeing it in space from 2002-09 though). Worst GL opening was that 2007 destiny BS IMO.

I don’t believe it has been, the only 2000 episode I’ve remember seeing repeated before was Billy&Mac being named King & Queen at prom for in like 2001 or something. Hearst was great in the role but I can see him being considered too old for it. I like the idea of him coming on a new Jabot or Newman executive though, he would have nailed it after his Alan-Michael days. I know the show was disappointed in seeing him go and had kept stretching it with his ghostly appearances.

Y&R August 2000-Ho boy Russell Lawrence was lousy as Carter/Matt. Y&R should never have hired someone best known for Power Rangers lol, thankfully we’d have Hearst step in shortly afterward. Larry’s return was fun though. Phyllis had only been back less than a month at this point. The Billy/Mac romance was great stuff and if probably planned it would still be a central focus on the show today. Thanks for destroying it Y&R.

The amount of contradictory and whiplash interviews Corday gave between 1999-2006 I hope the soap journalists received hazard pay for their time interviewing him. During those years, Days tried to be all things--love stories, family stories, teen stories, social issues, crime stories, murder mysteries, evil twins, cheap stunts, and the kind of bizarre plot twists that seem uniquely Days. It was a foolish to mix all these ingredients AND expect it to work. Corday wanted an everysoap--he got a mess. I remember witnessing the pitiful attempt to redefine the John/Hope subsex and subsequent subspawn, as complex family drama.(At least the denouement for the final revelations for that story were very good.) If anybody was in need of a public neutering, it was Ken Corday. Corday defended Reilly’s style through the boom period of the mid-90’s. Then, he tried to out-Reilly Reilly with dumb gimmicks like the Princess Gina mess. Then, after a disastrous attempt to fuse Reilly’s outrageousness with more traditional soap story, Corday decided that the most radical thing to do would be to return Days to its’ roots. Ken Corday blamed everything on accomplice Tom Langan, fired him, and brought staff writers Peter Brash and Paula Cwikly to the fore. It seemed to be working, with the duo routinely making silk purses out of sow’s ears like Sami Scams Austin part 12, and the Hope/Lexie baby switch madness. So, what happened? Muttering something about budget expenses, Corday axed Cwikly/Brash and promoted Dena Higley, who basically wrote non-events like the Salem earthquake and mystery goop. The ratings dropped faster than a politician’s trousers, putting DAYS in a weak position when it was time to enter contract renewal talks with NBC. NBC wanted ratings up, budgets slashed, and James E. Reilly back as Head Writer. The alternatives? Go to another outlet that would probably want even more changes, or simply go off the air. Caught between a rock and a hard place, Corday chose to just lay there, and let NBC have their way and watched while Reilly makes a mockery of all the lofty ideals Corday was spouting.

Anybrowser? I loved that site, it was always my go to there 1996-2000ish especially for the huge GL section Cari had. Unfortunately I think most of the daily recaps have completely disappeared off the web for good as time has gone but it still is a valuable site 20+ years later that I hope we never lose especially for GL and Loving.

The episode of Evan's exit with Justine threatening him remains one of the bizarrest things I ever watched on the show. Unfortunately the scene I remember of Justine pulling a letter opener on a speechless Evan isn't around, but Eric Scott Woods later played the demonic boyfriend Piper in a couple early episodes of Charmed so it there is that.

This always intrigues me, mainly because Brian Frons refuses to give any interviews in the same fashion Goutman for ATWT yet since they're college professors nowadays no one even bothers to mention that in era in workshops.

This makes me sad, because it just still feels like yesterday I would be posting on a web forum whenever GL had a good episode or a story I liked even back in 2006. I still remembered Taggart’s story plans got tossed by the wayside or repurposed like Gus being the son of Alan & Rita or Reva’s stalker. Kriezman & Wheeler has good ideas but couldn’t execute them at all, especially once Wheeler became emotionally unmoored it was downhill. However I do appreciate they really did wrap up GL so I’ve blocked out the 07-08 crapola and shoddyness.

Thanks. Apparently the actor was the last Paul on ATWT before Kavovit took over: http://pgpclassicsoaps.blogspot.com/2008/10/where-are-they-now-damion-scheller.html

Definitely an odd Alex recast but she does feel regal here. I was trying to find that old temp recast thread to no avail(must be dropped off to archived parts of SON somewhere). Interesting to see for sure. That kid, that is Johnathan Brooks? Never seen him before but recognized the name from the closing credits. I remember back in the WOST days someone called it Quint & Nola's "Cousin Oliver/Billy Napoli" moment. How the heck did Quint & Nola end up with him? Did he live with them until their exit?

This sums it up pretty nicely. Plus Lily and Connor had a fun little feud of sorts that I enjoyed watching during those years as well.

Weird KOIN was still not airing B&B even by 1999! I wonder if another station had picked it up at some point in the 90s (kind of like how the occasional Fox/UPN/Indy station in some markets picked up pre-empted soaps over the years). Weirder is that for the old PrimeStar satellite company, they actually used KOIN for their CBS West Coast Feed(they used WUSA in DC for the East Coast Feed), so I surmise PrimeStar subscribers could only rely on WUSA to watch B&B then. (I had some family in WV who used PrimeStar I remember seeing KOIN on there but I never really watched it much when I visited them to find out their whole schedule, wish I had now.)

In addition to Detective Webber(did he even have a romance?) there was a fine looking, decently acted Detective Gil Wallace who befriended the Winters family and briefly dated Tyra but the show discarded before he was further developed. Similar later to what the show did with Alex Chavez.

Hahaha! The first tried with that Wesley guy and even had Olivia get engaged. Then of course Damon had potential and pushed around in the beginning but by year’s end he burnt through the story fast so they gave him that odd backstory for a D-plot on the show. Finally they managed to snag Shemar back which was good except the writing wasn’t and somehow they (very foolishly) let Malcolm & Olivia just fizzle out by fall of ‘05. Just terrible.

MB Lily came back at a time when then show had Glynnis O'Connor as Margo, Ned & Debbie Simon taking over, misuse of Royce, Hutch/Roseanna/Evan being front and fore center when none of that set the show on fire lol somehow ATWT still managed be #5 for the overall season rank.

To quote a Jump the Shark moment on the now long defunct Jump The Shark website on their section for ATWT: 😄 Now of course that was that poster's opinion but their was a general consensus that Rattray wasn''t good in the role. Granted looking back I will say at least for Rattray's first year and half we definitely saw Lily mature and Rattray play in storylines not suited for Byrne's Lily (add to the fact that Rattray was five years older than Byrne in real life) I have to say it wasn't all bad and even I remember liking her Lily with Sean & Colin. However, the Holden story did indeed go off the rails, and the amount of whining and crying Rattray's Lily did in the second half of 1992 was unforgivable...only Martha Byrne could have gotten away with all of that, which is why she was well welcomed back in 1993. Lily was best with Damien and both Dusty Donovan's. Holden became such a dud but at least Jon Hensley held in there and always did his best.

I forgot that Miles and Margaret were guests at the wedding, I’m glad to see them again.

I’m annoyed Nathan’s exit story had him become the villain in the story. I can understand what lead to the affair after all the stress Olivia & Nathan went through, the hatred and disgust with the HIV scare was well warranted but kidnapping was out of character. Why didn’t Nathan just leave town for a couple years with maybe a couple pop up visits in between? Funny when the show brought back Lazarre-White in 2000 at least Olivia met Nathan in heaven.

Sheesh, that's too bad as he a lot of 1986 stuff I rewatched months back. All these services have gotten nuts this past year, don't even start me on Hulu.

Indeed it was. Wonder if they will also perhaps re-air Camryn Grimes’ Emmy win ep since that was entirely pre-empted as well.

I love seeing Mari Jo on my big screen again too, so underrated. This video below was an early appearance of hers as she spun her web of duplicity and fitting into Genoa City. I definitely think the haunting/chilling score that plays over her scenes starting @9:46 in the video below definitely suits her mysteriousness:

She first left in the fall of 1989 but then came back in late summer/early autumn 1990 before leaving again late summer 1992, with short term returns in 93, ‘94, and 96. I had wondered why Traci was never recast but by the time Traci was leaving out in the early 90’s with so many ladies like Nina, Christine, Dru, Olivia, and Victoria in play the character Traci had been eclipsed.

Wow did I hear the Genoa City theme while playing in a scene with Lynn, Nina, Olivia and Gina? Wow didn’t realize it was still being used this late! It is nice whenever these episodes reference moments we’ve seen during these run of classic eps. 😁 LOL Mary Williams 🤣

He may have been let go from GL as that was time of when the show was starting to transition into the Kobe/Long era and the show lost a lot of characters who had been there for a good number of years including Ben & Eve. But P&G also kind of shuffled their acting pool around as well. Per Drueding's site, Yates played Jaime from August 3, 1983 - July 29, 1985. I think reception to him in the role was pretty mixed at best. That reminds me, before all that Ehlers mess showed someone mentioned Curt Dawson who played Holly's one time fiancé Peter (between engagements with Maya Waterman) and also was on AW. Dawson unfortunately passed away a couple years later as an early victim of AIDS.

The first I remember reading about Eve was back in 1998 when SOD posted all those old 1978 synopses on their website, and from what I read up(and later seen) she was she definitely a damsel in distress/"Perils of Pauline" type character. I guess it was nice for Rita to have another family member in town but she was definitely too sweet with her share of stalkers on top of it. As for Yates after he left AW that was pretty much it for his acting career aside from a few prime time guest gigs. I think I remember someone saying Shipp and Kasdorf were good friends with Yates back then I wonder if they have kept it touch at all.