Everything posted by P.J.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Exactly. It's literally a handful of episodes. The scenes I remember are with Maura West, as Lucy snottily asks if Carly's Craig's mistress. She then goes on about how parents don't understand the damage they do to their kids, which leads to Carly going to Julia I and apologizing for throwing the (cheap looking) Christmas stocking Julia bought for her and Jack's unborn child. If Seyfried got paid for the use of her photo, she got a good deal.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
And FYI, the reason Peter was adopted in the first place is that Nadine (who was married to Billy between Billy and Vanessa's marriages) intended to pass off Bridget's baby as her and Billy's child. (Naturally, this was done to save her marriage, because she knew Billy really loved Vanessa...but that's nearly three years of plot in a nutshell. LOL)
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I will say, while there is a fuzzy quality to her other playlists/years, it's not quite as bad as that. I'm not quite sure exactly what the reason stated was for Josh moving in with Vanessa. But Josh hadn't been back in town long before Billy went to jail. And after Billy went to jail, Vanessa and Bridget fought for custody of Peter (who Billy and Vanessa had adopted). Roger, naturally didn't want his grandson raised as a Lewis, and so he backed Bridget in the case. He also threatened Vanessa, and no doubt Josh stepped in to protect Vanessa. There's also the fact that he had two young children, so for a while they sort of group raised all their various children . Vanessa's father Henry is also living there with them. Peter is Roger's first grandchild. At this point in time, GL's characters don't really have grandchildren. The only ones that do are Reva and Billy. Their son Dylan fathered a child by Harley, but that child isn't really on canvas at this time. Vanessa won't even get a grandchild on screen before the show ends. I understand re: time. I've honestly only been rewatching GL for a little over a year. I'm sure there'll be enough exposition to fill in the blanks, but it's not exactly the same as watching Roger reclaim being Public Enemy Number One. LOL.
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Vanessa is Josh's ex-sister-in-law. (That also makes her Mindy's ex-stepmother) Vanessa was married (twice) to Josh's brother Billy. Billy shot Roger when he learned Roger was his adopted son Peter's grandfather. He's currently in jail. Yes, Vanessa is older than Matt. If you find yourself hooked, you might eventually want to go back to 1989, which is when Roger returns from the dead. (And you'd get the entire history of Roger and Billy's feud, but I digress.) If you've found the playlists I'm thinking of, no, I haven't found better quality. Man, it's been a tough year for soap star deaths already.
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I haven't rewatched it since it aired, but I recall the Brent story being well-received. Sure, it was a rip-off of Psycho, but daytime had never shied away from ripping off the movies. Thinking about it, I wouldn't doubt it was trying to tap into the uptick in horror/slasher movies in the '90's. It is ironic for someone to diss how crappy the actors writing could be, when she was a dayplayer actress turned writer. I mean, for a writer, she sure played the part of an ex-hooker slinging beers well. I mean, how can you not write something better for Holly than a dull romance with the duller than dirt Fletcher? I mean, c'mon. Every other vet in that age range got a younger lover to goose their story. The only one it didn't really work for was Ed, and that was part of the fallout from Maureen's death no doubt. I do want to add that even though I loathed Nadine, and don't think much of Jean Carol's acting, McTavish did her dirty. What's an actor supposed to say? "I'm happy over here playing 4th banana with nothing really to do?"
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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion
Is that Marie Masters at 2:17? I wish someone could work some digital magic and clean up those images. I don't have a clue about who most of these people are.
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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion
lol...mostly that Reva and Cassie are brainless idiots having a stupid argument. Over JoshUA .
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BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread
I understand wanting fresh faces, but it seems like most of the cast has their first acting gig. Yes, other soaps started with inexperienced actors (looking back at B&B is painful, and Ronn Moss never improved) but they also balanced it with vets or established character actors in key roles. Anyone else wishing Anita had a bestie to talk to? Her family is exhausting.
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ALL: General Retro Soap Discussion
Now I get what you mean. But honestly, it kind of reinforces the idea that those two morons are arguing into a huge void.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
I, personally, would never consider either Roger or Alan a romantic leading man. Some could argue Alan was briefly with Hope/Rita (or was at least working on turning that corner) and becoming more anti-hero-ish around that time with that and the Jennifer/Amanda story. While I've never really seen pre-77 Roger (his relationship with Peggy), what I've seen never strays far from villain territory. Yes, he loves Chrissie/Blake and Hart, but it's always more about what he needs than affection. This isn't to say that CB's Alan and Roger aren't complex and layered characters. I would never call them one-dimensional. (Contrast them with a cardboard villain like ATWT's Tonio Reyes ...ugh) They love, but it gets smothered by their need to control and manipulate people. Alan loses some of his complexity when Long takes over. Although in fairness, part of that is probably due to CB's health. He seems to be gone for chunks of time in '83. Particularly in the fall. There's a plot point of him leaving Vanessa in charge of Spaulding for a time to teach her a lesson, and then he's gone again and returns just in time for the reveal in the Eli Simms/Fishing picture story.
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Totally agree. Although I love the '01-'02 return, with him egging Barbara into madness and engineering Carly, Emily and Rose's kidnappings. Who's the bigger villain? Roger. He raped two women, he was about to kidnap Chrissie, and he was blackmailing Alan. Alan was morally corrupt, but you always felt he had some kind of ability to care about someone other than himself. Not so with Roger.
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I agree--it was a more interesting dynamic, before they all became Reva worshippers. RME. And I adore sage Grandpas HB and Henry. What surprises me on rewatch is that aside from a couple of years, HB isn't really a permanent fixture in town. Julie managed to be boring in both extremes, as the doe-eyed ingenue and the frustrated bitch. And as much as I liked WM and GT, Dinah never quite turned the corner and became likeable. The show never really found either of them a good leading man.
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It's interesting, I just rewatched Quint and Nola's engagement ball, and Mindy ends up faking an injury and lands in the hospital (that's where she meets Beth.) There's a scene with Mindy and Bert, where Bert is basically reading her the riot act about being a brat in the hospital. So, maybe Long was thinking about heading in that direction, with casting Bert as some kind tamer/mender of the Lewis family. At the beginning, HB was not the revered patriarch they turned him into. Josh was at odds with him, Trish had been at odds with the family over marrying Andy, and there seems to have been some kind of break between HB and Billy, which led to Billy leaving Lewis Oil.
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They got back together after Alan-Michael's birth in 81, then Alan goes to jail in '82 (I think for helping Roger) and Amanda's left in charge of Spaulding. Then there's something about Alan being kidnapped out of jail (and framed to look like he broke out and fled the country.) Hope is all rah-rah Alan, and Amanda feels like an idiot for believing in him. At the end of '82, Amanda is voted out as president of Spaulding (she, Ross and Josh form LTA), but it seemed like Alan and Hope were okay. But by May '83, Hope is a big ol' blacking out drunk, and Alan is licking his lips over Trish. So...it was just lazy writing? Hope's bored and Alan is addicted to creepin'? Eh...well, Curlee would've been wise to avoid writing Julie Cameletti then, but que sera, sera. I think a troublemakers can be rich too.
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