P.J.

Well, yikes. Honestly, while I don't dislike Crampton, she just never fit in to the Lewis family. GL would've been better off sticking with Hamilton through the climax with Eve, then take the time to recast.

Nope, never did. But just from the pictures I've seen, she seemed seven feet tall. Mindy needed to be a petite blonde. Sorry, I'm biased. I think if Kim Simms had returned, Mindy would've taken an entirely different direction. Part of the problem with Barbara Crampton was she generated no chemistry with VI. Even though I didn't particularly like them, KS and VI had chem in spades.

Good grief, did anyone appropriate for the role audition? Sonia and Ann were too young. Barbara Crampton (who came in later) was all kinds of wrong. That role wasn't uncastable, fcol.

lol..I gues they'd put it in the right thread though. The younger cast all looks the same age to me.

No, Long was gone from GL by '91. *unless you meant Walker/Long on SB.

who does the actress playing Naomi remind me of? It's driving me a little crazy. Some of the actors seem to be easing into their roles finally. The dialogue is better in spots, but there's still a good amount of clunky garbage. Sigh...am I the only one annoyed that the timeline seems off? Anita mentioned (I think) that she and Bill met in 1973. 52 years ago. If Martin wants to run for president, that means he has to be 35 in 2028 (he doesn't look old enough to be now). That means he'd have to be born in 1993, and the oldest Nicole could've been is 20 by that timeline. Uh...what?

I think all shows do. But I also think that the acting core was stronger when Kim left, than it had been for a while in the late '80s.

Shows have suffered from one star departure, and four would usually call for a massive retooling. They had a good mixture of vets, characters ready to grow and newbies to keep the show cookin'.

Right? Ugh. And watching Yvonne Perry try and act is painful.

OMG---PROOF that Carly didn't know who Mike was when they hooked up. Haters retooled history insisting she did. LOL...I used to love Carly's snarky "Rosebud". And Tess calling Rosanna "Just Rosanna

I think part of the reason I LOVE '89-'93 so much is because it's Reva-lite, between her maternity leave and her exit. I'm sure some fans missed her---I recall some kind of SOD poll about who should come back, and I think Phillip was more missed at the time. If it'd been Judi Evans, I could've accepted that. But Beth Chamberlain? NOPE.

Yes, Reva was popular. They really retooled the show around her. I can't remember how big a surprise her death was to fans. I have just watched her '90 emmy acceptance speech, and she mentions they just sent out some kind of announcement (I'm not sure if it was invites to a farewell party or what). But I don't remember if that was when the news broke or if it had been circulating before that. She called him "Bud" less than she called him "Joshua", but yeah that's a nickname for him. I'm not sure they ever exactly explained where that came from. I loved Harley. LOVED. (you want an unpopular opinion---I loved Lucy and Alan-Michael...) I loved Harley with Phillip. It broke my heart when I found out Grant "didn't get" them, and considered Beth his best pairing.

I should clarify---I was thinking about Chris Bernau's Alan caring for Reva....I forgot about Alan and Amish Reva. RME. But yeah, Alan should've been more scheming when it came to using Annie, instead of being Annie's enabler. Ditto about Alan and Beth. Actually, you can add Olivia and his creepy fascination with Natalia as well.

I think the writing fails to make RR's version into "Alan". Chris Bernau put such a stamp on the role, no one could live up to him. And as the writing for Alan got more atrocious, the less satisfied people were with RR. But I'd say he was more popular than Daniel Pilon in the role. *which, admittedly is faint praise* RR's Alan is just too desperate. Too big a chump when it comes to women. OG Alan only *maybe* cared about Hope and Rita. Maybe Reva. Every other woman was a means to an end.

Yeah, I think he drops it once he admits to being Buzz in May.

I think it would've served the show a lot better in the long run, but que sera sera.

I'm not sure how they'd have explained the accent..but OMG, the diction between Ian and Maeve! The slimy innuendos he tried to come on to Van---*flesh crawl*

Thank you!! Y'know I love Billy bein' a big ol' [!@#$%^&*] to Reva. And now I get it in English! I think the Alex episode was the first episode of 1989.

I just remarked that it was strange Vanessa had no onscreen grandchild, when she'd been on the show forever at that point. And because she's not on the last episode, we don't see her get to anticipate it either. Billy ---Susan, (Bill's unborn child) Reva---Susan, Sarah and Henry (who Shayne had just discovered) Josh---Henry Ed--Jude, Leah, Robbie, Hope Buzz--Susan, Zach, Jude, Marina, Francesca Holly--Kevin, Jason, Clarissa Roger---Kevin, Jason, Clarissa, RJ and Peter Lillian--Lizzie, James, Peyton Alan--Lizzie, James, Zach, Emma, and a great grandchild (Lizzie and Bill's) Ross---none Vanessa--Bill's unborn child

Yes, but the child wasn't born onscreen. Although I do think they say it's a boy. Dinah had at least two miscarriages through the years. One would have been biologically Vanessa and Ross' grandchild. The other (that I recall) was actually Cassie and Edmund's child and no relation to Vanessa. Bill adopted Olivia's daughter Emma, but that was annulled, and the child Bill thought he had with Ava Peralta was Remy Boudreaux's son. The weird (and by that I mean soap opera incestuous) thing is, Bill and Lizzie's child was Vanessa's grandchild and Ross' great-great nephew (or niece).

LOL...Nick and Mindy's non-wedding coincides (or at least kicks off) the Blackout of '92, which fans usually cite as a favorite story (or group of episodes). It coincides with GL's anniversary week. For a while, GL really tried to do a "big" event that week of the year.

Roger and Alex brought Eve to town in '92 to break up Nick and Mindy's relationship. (Eve was an old girlfriend; and she didn't realize she was their pawn) Nick and Mindy were about to get married, when Mindy left town (Mindy had altered Nick's DNA test results; she didn't want him to know he was Alex's son. Alex found out and told Mindy Nick knew and wasn't going to marry her) Eve was suffering PTSD from being a political prisoner in some godforsaken country (she was gang-raped), and glommed on to Nick. Nick and Eve hooked up. When Mindy came back in early '93, Eve realized Nick was still in love with Mindy. She started acting weird, she tore up Mindy's photos of her and Nick, she made it seem like Mindy was stalking her, she trashed her own car with a baseball bat and made it look like Mindy had done it. She even put on a wig and acted like Mindy while on a trip with Nick. It all hit the fan on the night of Mindy's fashion show. Eve stole the show-stopper wedding gown that Mindy was going to model. She also drugged Mindy's water right before Mindy got into her car to drive her and her brother Bill (Billy and Vanessa's son) and they got into a car accident. She then doctored the blood alcohol test to make it appear that Mindy was drunk. By this time Nick and Ed have caught on, and Eve really flips, ties Mindy up and nearly takes a header off the lighthouse. Ed talked her down and got her treatment. I haven't watched much of GL '94, but I assume they were a controversial couple because she was his first relationship after Maureen died (and everyone loved Maureen).

Rick left town in early '91 as part of the community service he was sentenced to. In '90, Phillip had been framed for the murder of Neil Everest, Beth's lover. (Beth had been presumed dead, and came back a mute amnesiac.) Phillip, with Rick's help, faked his death to avoid prosecution. (Rick's "help" was procuring a dead body for them to burn in a car accident I believe). Rick then married Beth, who was pregnant with Lizzie. There was a point where Rick could've testified against Phillip for a lighter sentence (and Ed wanted him to), but he refused. This was a pattern in the Rick/Phillip relationship, with Rick getting pulled into Phillip's crazy life and trying to clean up the mess for Phillip. '95 may have been when they recast teen Michelle (Rachel Miner) with Rebecca Budig.

I guess it depends on what you're looking for?

At least that might've been interesting. Sid had ambition. But yeah, P&G sure wasn't going there.