Gray Bunny

I thought the same thing! Looking forward to seeing her again sometime this season. Not gonna lie, I'd love it if the producers finagled a way to get Danielle back for Season 5, even for just one party event where they may genuinely run into one another.

Exactly, all that can be judged is what's onscreen. I'm holding everyone accountable. Caroline is accountable as being the saint and the voice of reason. Jacqueline is being held accountable as the loyal friend and misunderstood mother. Etc, etc., etc., but what I'm saying is, there's more than just what the producers are portraying, for EACH of them. Hence, the falling out between sister Dina and Caroline and in-laws Dina and Jacqueline. Not to mention all the unmentioned tension between Teresa vs. Melissa & Kathy. That's why this whole fight between Teresa vs. Melissa/Kathy seems so incomplete and pretty petty altogether, because they're not addressing all the issues. I'm guessing the show itself is one major issue. Season 3&4 is basically watching the Guidice/Gorga/Wakile clans dodging a pink Italian elephant in the room that isn't spoken of when the cameras are rolling.

I agree. The way they're painting Teresa is very contrived. There is just TOO much behind-the-scenes quarreling that we the viewer don't know about for certain, but we can make guesses and have heard whisperings thru gossip blogs. Here's my issue with the whole New Jersey dynamic: If Teresa is so vile and Caroline and Jacqueline are such saints, why is Dina Manzo not speaking to either of them? It can NOT be solely about Teresa. We've heard whisperings about why Caroline and Dina are on the outs (some say Caroline is mad that Dina left the series, some say Caroline is actually homophobic and there is tension amongst the siblings over their gay brother, some say it's Teresa's fault for whatever reason), but we don't know for certain. And we don't know why Dina and Jacqueline aren't speaking. But surely these 2 aren't the innocent angels they are portrayed to be, year after year. There's just more here that we're not privy to. Why is Caroline so hard on her daughter for being overweight? Something's not right there. She'll fight to the death for her gay son and her other alcoholic son, but says digs about Lauren like "she's beautiful on the inside, but still needs to work on the outside." I mean, really? Has Caroline looked in the mirror? Even though she herself lost weight, she looks like a deflated balloon. And what about Chris, the boozehound younger son? He's putting on some weight there. Is it just expected that Italian men put on the pounds, but the women have to be bodacious beauties ? On to Teresa's family... How many iTunes sales would Melissa Gorga be making if she wasn't exploiting her alleged feud with already-famous sister-in-law Teresa? I can see why Teresa would say Melissa's a copycat. She rode on Teresa's coattails on to this reality show and is cashing in, whereas Teresa was the first person in the family to get on the show by her own merits, not by being a relative. Kathy is just time-filler. Her lesbian sister Rosie is way more interesting to watch than Kathy. I'd also be interested to know what kind of conversation that Melissa Gorga had with Danielle Staub before Melissa joined the show. How did Danielle Staub know at the Season Two reunion that Teresa had yet to see her nephew/niece (can't remember which gender) ? There's more to the story, and I'm not so quick to jump on the Teresa-Is-The-Bad-Guy bandwagon here.

What a pint-sized stud I still think he and wifeypoo Melissa totally wanted to cash in on Teresa's fame, though. If I haven't said it before, my all-time favorite housewife husband, in terms of studliness, was Atlanta's Lisa Wu-Hartwell's hubby Ed Hartwell (who have since divorced). In the words of Phaedra: Mm-hmmmmm....

A season 8 cover? I thought we were only up to season 5 being out on DVD...

Agreed. I pretend like MP 2.0 didn't happen. It certainly doesn't count in my eyes. Sydney being alive? Michael acting as if he had some attraction and a soft spot for Sydney when she was brought into the E.R.? Amanda back from faking her death and no mention of it? Michael having a grown son, and we don't know who the mama is, and if we know the mama then that means they did some serious rapid-aging. Jane being a manipulative bitch who STILL cannot outsmart her opponent? Jo now pessimistic about life? Plus, Amanda talking like a grandma? (bad cosmetic surgery Miss Locklear, tsk tsk) And they didn't even bother to have the Melrose courtyard building look remotely similar to the original. Nope, in my mind, all that crap happened in a parallel universe.

Oh dear, if you hate him in Season 6, just wait until season 7. That's all I'm gonna say... Me and the hubby are currently watching Season 7 on Netflix cuz it's the only season not available for purchase.

Thank goodness. I think Bravo is smart enough to know that Brandi has been a big hit and people want to see more of her, even if we're not seeing her in an at-home setting with her kids.

I think Tardy for the Wedding is okay, and I'm glad they're only half-hour shows... that is, unless they're always going to show back-to-back half hour shows together? Hopefully that was just for the premiere episode(s). I wonder how they pay people who end up being "friends of the housewives". Is their pay rate determined after they've finished filming? Or do they get paid the full amount regardless of what their status ends up being? Because as I recall reading, Lisa Wu-Hartwell was originally supposed to be in the 3rd season of Atlanta, but was bumped when the producers and her disagreed on storyline direction (or maybe she just HAD no story) and we end up seeing her once at a group event at Kim's house. I wonder what Taylor's pay will be if she indeed gets bumped to being a "friend of the housewives". I also wonder if New Jersey's Kim G and Kim D got a fee for their roles in Season 2. I wouldn't be surprised if they willingly did it for free, in hopes they'd be cast for the 3rd season....

Agreed, agreed, agreed. Kathy and her family are pointless. She is just like ATL's Cynthia: time-filler. Nothing wrong or bad about them, just incredibly boring. I don't think Melissa Gorga is all innocent & sweet either. I see the phony persona too. She clearly wanted the fame, and used her sister-in-law's coattails to ride in on the wave of fame 'n fortune 'n iTunes music releases. I'm sure sexy brother Joe saw his sister's success and wanted a piece of the action too. I still like Teresa too. We'll see how this season plays out in terms of what she does versus allegedly does. It's funny how RHONJ is always set up where there's one main villainess and the other 4 do nothing but talk about that villainess without having too much interaction with her until big events. I feel like NJ should be a half-hour long to reduce time on all the fluff and b.s.

Or maybe she's just afraid she'll look fat on camera I'm glad that Brandi will be a "full time" housewife, credits 'n all!

I agree, she made the show a lot of fun, just pointing out that it was a very different portrayal, season 5 vs. 6. And yes, that Christine story was awful, and it totally sucks the life out of Amanda for a long time.

Love it. Haha. If you got more, keep 'em coming, cuz I don't know where you get them from!

I loved Rinna as Taylor, though I will admit they definitely made her a cartoon in season 6, much like they started making Sydney a cartoon half-way through season 4. Taylor was originally a street-savvy force to be reckoned with when she arrived in season 5, but they made her completely delusional with an almost child-like mentality in season 6.

I could've sworn I read that Josie Bissett was pregnant but miscarried, and wished to take some time off, so they graciously let her out of her contract.

As for Jersey, while I liked the intro and set-up for the new season, the first episode brought us the same ol' crap that the 3rd season was soaked in. These ladies just LOVE to rehash, rehash, rehash over the same tiny disputes. I *really* hope this season lives up to the promo they ran at the tail-end of the episode, because I'm not sure I'm gonna sit through another year of the same stuff. I sure wish they could be more open & honest about the show itself driving some of these ladies apart, because right now, the Caroline vs. Teresa feud is very flimsy, but we KNOW there's more to the story. Same with Caroline vs. Dina.

I liked that too. Kim always admitted it was NeNe who got her on the show. Not surprised that Sheree can't extend that same courtesy thank-you. And I *loved* NeNe's response when Sheree said she got on the show by her own merits. "Uh, you had a little help there." I agree that Kim & NeNe don't have that hatred towards each other, just indifference, which means no sparks will fly between them anymore. I kinda liked the montage they did for Sheree; kinda like a little send-off tribute after 4 years. I thought it was kinda distracting how nearly all the ladies were constantly tossing and picking at their hair and outfits. Sit still, ladies! I think NeNe and Phaedra were the only two who didn't look like they had ants in their pants (or in their weaves). Marlo definitely added nothing. Even NeNe knows she's too ridiculous.

I wonder what numbers were like in primetime, and how Our Private World fared against them. Not very well, I'm guessing.

I'm such a ratings nerd Thanks for posting these

That's a "I'ma take you out back and beat your ass once we're done filming!" look.

That was hilarious, I LOLed so loud. There were so many moments that I had to watch twice, three times cuz I was laughing so hard. She is the queen of one-liners

Interesting how the ratings fluctuated so during the good ol' days of soaps. ATWT is 1.3 below the top-rated soap, yet it's No. 1 overall for the year.

I agree, NeNe does seem to have some common ground with Phaedra and Kandi (okay, the reunion episode didn't reflect that much with Kandi, but overall there is). Without Sheree, Kim won't have a buddy that'll side with her. It would be interesting to see an Atlanta cast with NeNe, Kandi, Phaedra, Cynthia (ugh, I guess she can stick around) but the other 2 original ladies gone and a couple new ones added.

Yay, great finale numbers for Atlanta! As well they should be, considering how heavily it was promoted, plus it's the one time all season long where ALL the ladies are forced to be in one room and duke it out. And they delivered! I. effing. love. NeNe. She had me busting up laughing so many times! Even when she's a tad hypocritical or not completely rational, she still kills me. She tore Sheree a new one, just as She by SheLies deserved! Don't go after the kids. Sheree was so desperate to make a point that she brought up Bryton's petty theft as an example of how NeNe isn't really rich. Girl please. Who gon' check you boo? NeNe, that's who! Phaedra and NeNe were all sorts of win on this episode. Even though I don't necessarily agree with some of NeNe's bickering with Kandi, overall she won. Phaedra's facial expressions told the whole story, when Sheree was stuttering her way through trying to explain to Andy why Chateau Sheree is still Neverland. Cut to Phaedra. Cut to Cynthia. Cut to NeNe. Cut to Kandi. Yeah, nobody was buying her excuses, not even Andy. "Chuckle. Okay..." was his response. Then there was Phaedra vs. Sheree. Sheree had no clue what she was talking about, trying to sound like she understood the legal system and what had really happened. I loved Phaedra's calm matter-of-fact demeanor, explaining how the real world works. "What do you think I was doing with Bobby Brown all those years?" And the "I'll let you wear the crown" because she "throws everyone under the bus"... lol wow. Sheree's helpless look after Phaedra said that was priceless. And of course, the "deeldo" debate. LOL. Such a hilarious reunion episode. (P.S. Eric83 love the "Hi Haters" NeNe gif)

You are not alone my friend It feels VERY forced. It started out badly with the all-too-obvious set-up of Tamara inviting her to events. And something about her just seems like a bad acting job. She doesn't seem to really want to get into all the fighting and bickering, but feels she has to because that's part of the game here in Real Housewives land. To be completely honest with you though, I haven't sat through an entire OC episode in weeks.