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And, when you watch his movies/series, it becomes obvious HOW they shot it so fast. Very few costume changes, VERY long scenes where people repeat the same lines over and over...wait!...Am I talking about B&B? LOL

This is a HUGE complaint I've had about this show for a very long time...it's seemingly uncapable of featuring more than one story most episodes. So, if you're not into THAT story, like me, you just tune out. And, that also creates this lack of build-up. Sure, it's a 30-minute soap, but 30-minute soaps featured more than one story an episode. Even during the writer's strike, I noticed we were getting episodes that featured more than one story. The audience isn't stupid. We don't need 30 minutes of people repeating the same dialogue over and over to follow the story. It makes zero sense that each episode can't have a B-story. I usually watch just the first couple of scenes, and if I can tell it's going to be an episode of Liam, Hope, Steffy repeating stuff over and over that they've said before with Brooke and Ridge talking about the SAME stuff that is happening with Liam, Hope, and Steffy AGAIN, I just tune out and don't even watch.

I sooooo think that Sheila isn't dead. Remember how before she died she kept saying she was meeting up with "an old friend." Maybe the old friend was her sister.

Is B&B still saying Paris is on contract?? She hasn't appeared in months. I wonder if they're keeping her listed as a way to say they have "one AA actress" in the cast.

Hope's been divorced for what....two minutes...and people are riding her for not accepting the marriage proposal from the dude who told her her baby was dead. I. Can't. Even.

The character of Phyllis really does feel directionless at this point. After faking her death, she's been written into a corner. For the story to make any sense at all, it would have to be something much bigger than the fight with Tucker...something that probably goes back to her childhood. Abuse is often the reason people develop DID. Which then would beg the question how long have all of these alters been around and have then "come to the surface" before?

I watched the first few scenes and knew there would be ZERO story progression. So, I didn't even bother. The whole Hope/Thomas/Steffy mess makes zero sense. WHY WHY WHY would Hope want to rush into marriage...with the guy who stole her baby...after she barely just got out of a divorce?

Wow...it's sad how things really haven't changed much in 40 years.

I feel like Sally lost so much of her luster during that whole Nick/Adam thing. Personally, I I'm so over Adam at this point. The actor is great, but the character is just feeling one-note and redundant at this point. I sort of feel the same way about Billy. In many ways Billy and Adam are almost written as the same character type. It would be a great idea to write Adam, Chelsea, and Connor out at the same time. Have them move to Europe or such. I can't understand why Chelsea has lasted this long, either.

That is intriguing!!

I only saw a little of GL during the Peapack days, and it was quite shaky. That being said, technology has come a long way since then, and I think a new soap would be improved greatly and more modern with more on location shooting. TV movies, such as those on Lifetime, Hallmark are shot on a shoe string budget, but there's a ton of on location shooting. Maybe if the show is shot in Atlanta it will lend it to more of that.

ITA...At least bring back the Forrester gym and have them stand around shirtless while they have these nonsense, repeating conversations. Thomas proposing every week was creepy, and any reasonable person would think that Hope should not rush into marriage with anyone, especially Thomas, right now!

I still think Brooke should have an fling with Hollis...and then, she finds out he's Ridge's long-lost son from an ex-model at Forrester!

ITA. I've loved Brooke the most when she's being all messy. I thought the show was on fire when she and Deacon were having their secret affair. When Stephanie found out...so much fun!

I don't see ATWT or GL ever returning in any shape or form at this point. BUT, if this show were to be successful, I could see ABC possibly rebooting AMC (and a lesser extent OLTL) since the network owns the rights to those shows. The shows could also stream on Hulu with all of ABC's titles. The twin cancellation of those shows remains to be a head scratcher. ABC still had to be making money off of both of them, and they had just paid all that cash to relocate AMC to Los Angeles. And, God knows, none of the stuff they replaced those two shows with ever took off.

I'll never understand why they sidelined Brooke and Thorne so quickly. I thought KKL and WH had AMAZING chemistry, and the story just upped her rivalry with Stephanie. Then, after all they did to get together, their whole marriage ended in like one single episode, so that Brooke could go back to Ridge. IMO, Brooke has always been much more interesting without Ridge. I really believe that's what they were teasing in the Poppy/Finn dialogue...that Finn could be Luna's father. Finn's whole..."Why would you come to me with this?" etc etc. I would hope that's NOT the case, but this show has done freaky, offensive stuff before. Remember when Ridge started to romance Bridget...the girl he thought was his daughter and sister at different points? So, creepy. Yet, they went there. That being said, I wish they would just say who the hell Luna's father is, and there has to be more to Li hating her sister than Poppy screwed up at a hospital gift shop job Li got her.

So, how many times has Thomas asked Hope to marry him at this point? Dude, get a clue! As someone else mentioned, why do characters feel like they must constantly get married. I groaned when it looked like...Poppy was going to tell Finn that he was Luna's father. That would have been beyond creepy and offensive, and I hope that's not where we're headed. That being said, I wish Poppy would just tell Luna who the hell her father is.

Those Capwell dinner party episodes are still some of my favorite of all time TV. The way the writers really got into the characters and their backstories was magical. I also thought Margarita Cordova did some amazing work in those episodes where Rosa acknowledges how her own children lacked the mother they needed because she was busy also raising the Capwell kids after Sophia "died." It struck me as how many childcare workers for the wealthy must feel when tasked for doing the parenting for rich, absent parents.

I just rewatched those episodes after many years. I think on paper it probably sounded good with Lionel obsessed with Sophia's daughter that looks like her, but ITA it came off very creepy!

There's so many fun things that could be explored just by the fact that show is set in LA. How has there never been a character that's been an actor, for instance? The show should have a fun younger set that explores more of the city.

It would make sense for The Talk to get cancelled. The show has always struggled to find its voice and a dedicated audience. TPIS and LMAD are cheap moneymakers with reliable ratings, so they aren't going there. So, IF The Talk is cancelled and replaced by this new show, I REALLY hope CBS places it right after Y&R and then airs B&B after The Gates. The new show deserves a timeslot that would give it the best shot, and Y&R has such a huge AA audience even though you wouldn't know it since they utilize their black cast.

The show desperately needs a younger and fresher perspective to make it relevant. There's so much opportunity to explore just by the fact that the show takes place in LA.

We're in yet another holding pattern with characters just repeating the same words over and over again. Why couldn't Bill and Liam's scenes be replaced by a B-story to mix things up? This is why it feels like stories come out of nowhere. There's no build-up with stories at the different start points. Why can't these people find ONE other restaurant in LA to eat at??? lol

I think Liam on B&B owns this thread...closely followed by Ridge.

And, where I think the show misses a HUGE opportunity in developing more depth in the stories is not exploring the people in the basement (where Thorne worked). The people who are doing the REAL hard work, and showing and exploring class struggles that way as well as give us that character who's trying to claw their way to the top. Right now, it's so easy for a new character, such as Luna, to become a BIG success at FC without really showing them doing anything.