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I think Nick works better when he's the Newman son who's NOT involved in the family business but has other stuff going on. God knows we already have enough "vague, ill-defined corporate drama" going on all the time. Abby was rocking one of Stephanie Forrester's old pantsuits today.

Yeah, the Newmans are kind of a mess. Victoria's kids, outside of Claire, are MIA. Nick kind of floats around in limbo with no real purpose. Outside of Summer, none of Nick's kids have worked as characters since they keep trying to present Nick as a dude in his 30s. Noah and Kyle should be leading the 20-somethings. Christian is a missing non-entity. They never really even tried with Faith. Adam feels VERY repetitive, and IMO the show would be just fine without his character for awhile. Abby is not even thought of as part of the Newmans it seems as she rarely interacts with them.

Has anyone noticed how absent Nick is in Summer's life? Also, you can easily forget that Abby is Victor's daughter since she never interacts with that side of her family? Not to mention, I thought it was strange that Abby was missing from the "Ashley intervention" episodes. I think part of it is that Abby as a character has never really "popped."

mints! toes! mints! toes! B&B has turned into a satire of soaps.

I agree...this story is HORRIBLE and offensive. While the actor playing RJ is no Robert DeNiro, he's kind of grown on me. But, this story totally threw Zende under the bus from which he can't come back, and the actress who plays Luna deserves better. ALL the actors deserved better than playing out this storyline. The show had a chance to develop a true love triangle with the three, but there's no where to go with this story. What the hell was the end point for this story supposed to be? It comes off as written by a misogynist who has no idea what consent really means.

I agree. I feel bad for the actor because they've ruined the character. I'm not sure how Zende can come back from this especially since he's not taking ANY of the blame. They should have had BOTH Zende and Luna take the "magic mints" if they just HAD to do this storyline. Then, it might have worked a LITTLE better, but the whole story is just BAD.

When Carter finally became the person who called out Zende on his BS, I thought "finally." But, then of course he follows it with what a "good guy" Zende is. Even IF Zende truly believed that Luna was suddenly in his bed and wanted to be with him, he should have at least been questioning WHY she was suddenly acting this way out of nowhere AND be thinking of how this could impact RJ, his cousin. They completed ruined the character of Zende with this story.

I still think the show should air after Y&R and then have it followed by B&B to give it the best chance. I feel like B&B isn't even trying to tell engaging, fresh stories at all anymore. The post-Y&R slot gives The Gates its best shot for viewers to sample it.

OMG...this is so awesome! I honestly never thought we'd get the premiere of another daytime soap in the US.

If I had a dollar for every time a character has said "mints" on this show.

Before the whole "mint" disaster story, I thought a triangle with Hope/Thomas/Zende with Thomas being the bad guy would have been an interesting way to go. Hope has ZERO chemistry with Finn as there is no conflict between them. Their personalities are way too similar. I think the show missed the boat by not having Finn develop at least a little bit of an edge after he found out Sheila was his birthmother. The show continues to be "fast-forwardable."

The man writes some shockingly bad scripts. Just watch one episode of The Oval. It makes B&B look like Masterpiece Theater. That being said, he obviously has an audience and makes a ton of money off of his low budget productions.

Now would be a great time for the show to age Katie and have her show up. She could be jealous and envious of Claire, stir up trouble, and also start a new teen scene with Lucy.

They should just say "our big anniversary" and leave it at that. Otherwise, it means Nick had Noah when he was like two years old!

It always drives me crazy when soaps do this. "It's been X years since this happened," but it doesn't jive with the ages of the characters.

And, when you watch his movies/series, it becomes obvious HOW they shot it so fast. Very few costume changes, VERY long scenes where people repeat the same lines over and over...wait!...Am I talking about B&B? LOL

This is a HUGE complaint I've had about this show for a very long time...it's seemingly uncapable of featuring more than one story most episodes. So, if you're not into THAT story, like me, you just tune out. And, that also creates this lack of build-up. Sure, it's a 30-minute soap, but 30-minute soaps featured more than one story an episode. Even during the writer's strike, I noticed we were getting episodes that featured more than one story. The audience isn't stupid. We don't need 30 minutes of people repeating the same dialogue over and over to follow the story. It makes zero sense that each episode can't have a B-story. I usually watch just the first couple of scenes, and if I can tell it's going to be an episode of Liam, Hope, Steffy repeating stuff over and over that they've said before with Brooke and Ridge talking about the SAME stuff that is happening with Liam, Hope, and Steffy AGAIN, I just tune out and don't even watch.

I sooooo think that Sheila isn't dead. Remember how before she died she kept saying she was meeting up with "an old friend." Maybe the old friend was her sister.

Is B&B still saying Paris is on contract?? She hasn't appeared in months. I wonder if they're keeping her listed as a way to say they have "one AA actress" in the cast.

Hope's been divorced for what....two minutes...and people are riding her for not accepting the marriage proposal from the dude who told her her baby was dead. I. Can't. Even.

The character of Phyllis really does feel directionless at this point. After faking her death, she's been written into a corner. For the story to make any sense at all, it would have to be something much bigger than the fight with Tucker...something that probably goes back to her childhood. Abuse is often the reason people develop DID. Which then would beg the question how long have all of these alters been around and have then "come to the surface" before?

I watched the first few scenes and knew there would be ZERO story progression. So, I didn't even bother. The whole Hope/Thomas/Steffy mess makes zero sense. WHY WHY WHY would Hope want to rush into marriage...with the guy who stole her baby...after she barely just got out of a divorce?

Wow...it's sad how things really haven't changed much in 40 years.

I feel like Sally lost so much of her luster during that whole Nick/Adam thing. Personally, I I'm so over Adam at this point. The actor is great, but the character is just feeling one-note and redundant at this point. I sort of feel the same way about Billy. In many ways Billy and Adam are almost written as the same character type. It would be a great idea to write Adam, Chelsea, and Connor out at the same time. Have them move to Europe or such. I can't understand why Chelsea has lasted this long, either.

That is intriguing!!