Darn

Frank Grillo (Someone on GL, I dunno) has a pretty substantial role in Captain America: The Winter Soldier. I highly recommend the movie btw.

I think Carl completely understood and that's what disturbed him more than anything. He's (Carl) a "monster" too. I just realized that Carol, Tyreese and Judith were not at Terminus. Carol to the rescue! She'll get this handled.

It was *actually* good until that last line. I wish they allowed the hard curse words on basic cable, could have totally saved the scene. I so prefer batshit crazy Rick to sobbing and indecisive Rick. I want him, the Archer, the Samurai and the Kid to kick some ass next season. I love the little family Rick, Michonne and Carl have built. I was actually hoping Rick and Michonne's fireside chat would evolve into sexy times... I'm pretty sure these Terminus people are cannibals. There were what looked like flayed bodies on the ground while our group was running away from the Termites (btw I'm glad they pointed out that they were shooting at their feet, I was all ready to complain about what horrible shots they were).

I thought the first half of the season was far worse. Another 7 episodes waiting for the Governor to do something, snore. Not that this second half has been much better. I think they know what they want to do and where they want to go but the dialogue is just so spotty that the characters can come across like morons. Terribly underwhelmed by Maggie and Glenn's reunion and I LIKE them. It didn't feel as important as it should have. And they've been such assholes to everyone their with that I kind of didn't want them to get what they want, not that easily anyway (at least it's been relatively easy for the typical TWD shenanigans, they just had to walk in the same direction long enough). I really wonder if this show intends to stay in Georgia forever. Is the comic book like that?

I can only imagine how long the decision to kill Lizzie would have taken if Rick were around. At LEAST 3 episodes of him crying about it and yelling at the other characters. The foreshadowing thing Carl linked to highlights to me that this show is probably much better binge-watched. It's just that so much of TWD is people walking through shrubbery that it all sort of blends together week after week. I enjoyed the show more when I watched the first two seasons back to back.

I'm sorry you guys are reading/posting in obnoxious places. I don't see shipping wars on the articles I read about TWD. I know people root for Daryl and Carol, Maggie and Glenn but I've only ever seen people recoil at the idea of Beth and Daryl.

See I don't think the show is much character or much plot. The characters on this other than Rick, Carl, Michonne and Carol are EXTREMELY thin. And that's because we really have no idea who anyone else was before the zombie apocalypse. Maybe they're saving their backstories, maybe it doesn't matter in this new world and that's the point they're trying to get across. I feel like when the characters do speak they don't say much of significance, they don't talk about the things they should (I feel like this show avoids the logical livability of their situation, other than the fact that they do need a place to live, and I wish I knew why. It's the same way Lost (mentioning Lost again) quickly stopped dealing with the fact that they were on a deserted island.). They have the characters do stupid things and no one points it out. I'm tired of walkers sneaking up on people, it happens on almost a weekly basis. It's like they're suddenly stealth when the plot calls for it yet the rest of the time you can hear them like crickets at night.

Okay, cool, I don't think any large part of the audience is turning against Maggie. People love Glenn and Maggie far too much and no one really cares about Beth at all (I still don't think she has much of a personality, she's just potential zombie fodder to me). I've seen a lot of articles comparing this season to Lost, I don't see it. Lost was frankly more ambitious in its storytelling which just let to pretentiousness that turned me off. TWD is trying to be pretentious (long laborious shots of people walking with no dialogue and a backing track is so student film) but the dialogue and the setting aren't grandiose enough for that. I wish this show played with time more, if only to get away from the monotony of seeing the woods of Georgia every Sunday.

You know, Carl, it's ok if people complain about Maggie not mentioning her sister in 3 episodes. It's a valid complaint, there's no need to rationalize an oversight on the part of the writers. But I suppose Maggie could just assume that Beth is dead because this is Beth come on, no one expects her to live. So Bob, Maggie and Sasha ended up in the exact same place they were at the beginning of the episode except they're...happier? Okay. There's ponderous and insightful and then there's boring. I know Darryl's plan worked but it made NO SENSE to draw all those walkers to the basement. It just doesn't make sense. Who would think to do that? Lead them outside. Why confine yourself to such a small chance of survival? Is it wrong that Bob and Sasha's kiss grossed me out? Can you even imagine what these people smell like? And oh god, their breath.

Jill Larson is in this video about random strangers kissing each other for the first time (her stranger is a much younger man)

I don't mind a slow paced show if I like the characters. Unfortunately I can't stand the main character (though this latest episode was Patrick at his best, even if it felt like a student film).

I don't know how you could root for Patrick with anyone, he's such an idiot. And Richie could do better, so could Patrick's boss. Patrick acts like an 18 year old who's never seen a boy before, it's obnoxious. The whole thing with Richie is just weird because all they've had that we've seen is one stilted conversation on a bus and one terrible date. Why would Richie waste his time? I mean if he's really looking for something long term? And Agustin is a prick. The first night you move in with your excessively hot boyfriend and you're already bored? I could understand after maybe a few months but yeesh, way to be selfish. I like the other guy, the one with the mustache. I hope he doesn't break Scott Bakula's heart. I'm starting to think I watch this show because it's only half an hour long and we have on demand.

Don't read too much into that poll, of course Rick would come in last, he's incredibly weak right now both physically and mentally. Even more so than Michonne with her Rick like hallucinations (they're meant to be!) and much more so than Korl, who has youth on his side. I don't like Rick because I think Andrew Lincoln is a mediocre actor and that Rick is one of those tell, not show characters. He's the bestest leader in the world yet we don't actually see that, all we see really is episode after episode of indecisiveness. I like a layered lead character but perpetual self-doubt is not entertaining.

None of those shows would have done as well against the Olympics. Certainly no Sunday show. I think you have to be a crazy zeitgeist-y type show like TWD to do well against event television. I'm glad it did so well, that episode deserved it. I have a feeling we're in for a good string of episodes.

This episode was better than all of the first half of the season's episodes combined. I'm so irritated now at how much time they wasted on that virus and the Governor's nonsense.

Man, that video looks almost as cheap as Prospect Park soap. And the song reminds me of something the guys behind 'Friday' by Rebecca Black would make.

Andrea was ruined by Laurie Holden's portrayal, IMO. She came across so hard and just...smug, no matter the scene. But you're right, I tolerated that until the Woodbury arc. That whole mess damaged so many characters.

Who are GM and LH?

It was the highest rated night in Bravo history: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/01/07/bravo-media-shatters-ratings-records-sunday-with-its-best-night-in-network-history/227413/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29 I find it interesting that RHOA is the highest rated in the franchise (and has been for years) yet media seems to focus almost exclusively on the other Housewives series. "Interesting".

She's also been in 50 billion other things. She's one of those character actors that never stops working.

I'll take Moffat's constant attempts at epicness and myriad twist and turns over the cheesy crap RTD tried to pass off as drama. And I love River Song. Love her. Alex Kingston has had me since ER and that egg scene (if you've ever watched ER you know what I'm talking about). And River is fascinating. The whole timey wimey-ness of her conception and birth and marriage and death is one of the major strengths of the show: time travel. Also I'm just a big fan of stories that are plan in advance and (pretty much) make sense in the end. And that article is over a year old.

I don't "get" the Cybermen. They're not visually interesting or terribly scary (whereas I as a grown man think the Dalek's are pretty terrifying (they're garbage cans on wheelies, it's ridiculous!)) I don't know why they keep coming back other than they used to be one of the Doctor's big foes.

Well, they can't hire an underweight baby so you just have to accept some suspension of disbelief. And Daryl's reaction to underwhelming if you're at all a fan of the potential dramatic implications of Carol's exit. I'm sure they'll explore it more next season but by then it'll have been 3 episodes and 2 months since she left and it'll have lost its impact. This show doesn't know when to just let stuff happen organically.

Yes, they focused on her toward the very end of the episode, before Rick and Coral (that's how Rick says it) ran off.

It was okay. The first half was slow and took too long to get back to the prison. We didn't need two speeches from the Governor or the conversation with Rick that just went in circles. Man was that character badly written. Peace! I'm pretty sure the entire viewing audience called Herschel's death after his superhero episode a few weeks ago but it was still sad to see him go. Poor Maggie (and Beth, I guess). Rick is an idiot. I don't know why anyone lets him decide things. The Governor is insane, there was no talking to him, he honestly should have known better. I must say I'm excited about not knowing where the show is going. That's thrilling, to have everyone on the run again. We haven't had that in quite a while and I think it'll help re-energize the show.