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Another deranged moment from Irna Phillips. Anyone who has seen Frances' film work outside of Days knows how versatile and talented she was.

IIRC Geary may have also claimed Suver co-wrote the original pitch for the "Endgame" mess with him in 2001, which I think was to also feature the return of Robert Scorpio and which he said JFP totally discarded. I may be wrong on her name being linked. That is as much as I know about her.

#letthemfight

I highly doubt that. I don't think any regime after Monty was remotely invested in Bill, despite Geary's desperate attempts to put him over. They jumped at the chance to bring back Luke and Laura. The only reason Bill was created was to appease TG, who did not want to play Luke again in '91.

That's the site, yes. There's a couple of different interviews on there where he goes on and on about the dark secrets of the Eckert family, Bill's tortured past overseas, etc. All very impassioned stuff but nonetheless the audience never got behind any version of Bill, which led IMO to Tony trying to retrofit Luke into Bill in the late 2000s-2010s.

There's an L&L fansite out there that I think is still archived which has a number of interviews with Geary in which he enumerates Bill's many changes over the course of just 2-3 years and how he justifies them. He was deeply involved, deeply invested in the character which never really worked, and IMO he never forgave the show for it.

This seems very abrupt. I wonder WTF happened this time. But yes, to be clear I am rejoicing.

That's wild. I remember some of the island business with the teens. On paper someone writing to a con is a viable story, but I can't buy Bobbie being snowed given her history or jeopardizing her marriage over it.

It's too bad about Tracy Middendorf. She's a talented actress in a lot of TV and movies and I remember her debut episode which I found pretty atmospheric. She just was never going to replace Christie Clark in people's hearts.

Yeah, no one liked Becca. I did but almost no one else did at the time lol. IIRC she didn't get any onscreen exit.

I think I've heard of this before but I'd definitely like to know more, lol. Probably in the Classic thread if that's preferred by people. I've never been big on Cari Shayne's Karen. But yes, Carrie and Christie Clark have always had me. Like Kimberly as Robin on GH or Erin Torpey on OLTL, there is a core of lived experience with the actor evolving from child to adult and a quiet intelligence in their presence there that makes the character rise above any poor writing IMO.

What's truly Kafkaesque is how deluded he seems about himself and his views, and how when challenged to drill down in what he's actually saying about 'truth' and 'moderation' he just cycles back around to doublespeak. What he means is his desire to espouse conservative Republican views, but as someone who spent years working for Colbert and probably considers himself a liberal he can't fully admit that to himself or the entire game collapses. Same with his dancing around the topics of trans rights and his strange COVID beliefs - he doesn't want to fully articulate what he is trying to say. That would ruin things and make him realize he's just mouthing more of the same right-wing apologia as Joe Rogan and Dave Chappelle. Say what one will about the awful Zaslav and his sweater vests but at least he seems to know who he is. Licht is willfully clueless. And there were many valid reasons to fire Don Lemon, but being one of few prominent and outspoken gay and Black voices in media who could speak to what Trump and his kind are actually doing to people like him on-camera was not one of them.

The Licht piece is brutal, and everything he and Zaslav and CNN deserve. I was amused by the Twitter comparisons of him to a character from Succession. @DRW50 would know the truth of that better than I.

She was great. Just a string of legends lately.

I hesitate to post Thompson, who is just a gleeful gossip hound. But this thread is instructive, even if much of it is stuff we all could've told the GOP and the NY Times six months ago.

Sure. They've been sent to live on a farm with other not gone actors where they can run and play.

Extremely! I can't stand how they play it. But acting like she's been [!@#$%^&*] half the town for years is off to me.

I don't like Joss' personality any more than anyone else on here but she slept with one dude hours before breaking up with her college bf out of shame over it. She's not exactly Brooke Logan or even Carly, who was the sexual mascot of Jake's in her prime. We can ding the writing that tries to whitewash Joss' behavior without burning her on a pyre as a whore IMO. I'll admit I have a week-plus to catch up on. It's a struggle getting through days upon days of 1) The Same Black Storyline We Had For the Last Dude (it's true, Shawn had literally the same background story as Curtis for years), 2) Willow the Undying, 3) Carly and Drew's Bestselling Book "(If) We Did It", and finally 4) Esme Doesn’t Want to Pay Rent Because She Had Amnesia.

The Family Album was one of the last ABC openings - maybe the last - done with real care. The high-octane OTT GH Guza/Pratt opening debuted around this time too but was just a hypermasculine caricature. I did always laugh when this opening would reach the "and the rest" portion with Mia, Simone and other C-listers streaming by though. I liked when (IIRC) they subbed in Angie and Jesse for the absent Bianca at one point.

Nothing. There's never been a point besides their having slightly more interest in Curtis than Taggert.