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I think it's goofy too. She's a nice enough young woman in her role in the very silly and retro '80s (yet topical, yet very poorly done) "Chase goes undercover off the clock as a rocker because we like Josh Swickard singing to try and nail Brook Lynn's scummy old producer" storyline that brought her on, but I knew a little of her would go a long way for me. Still, I'm giving this a chance as I enumerated in the GH thread.

Again, I see zero reason to bring on Maria or her kids to GH, let alone more crossovers in major roles when the GH audience is sick of them.

Oh, constantly. But I think back to Mulcahey's stuff with the Avants on B&B and wonder if this is of a piece with that, and then only a family character who is tertiary vs. another needless name player. But I may be projecting wildly, we'll see. I agree Kristina and Blaze do not seem ready for primetime to me.

I'm gonna give it a shot because I've seen some of Mulcahey (if this is him, we dunno yet) doing LGBT stories like this before with key family member. I love Eva and if this is PM I doubt it's just another name brought in for star value to fill more space on canvas. We also dunno if she's contract. And I say that as someone who finds everything with Kristina and Blaze lukewarm at best thus far. But we'll see how it goes. (We also dunno if they're culling the cast, which they desperately need to do.)

I'd argue it benefits Democrats, judging by the last few years. And again, it's gonna be a long 8 months.

Leo is adorable. The rest are anonymous to me except Liz's kids, and while Aiden may be family I don't think that boy can act. Maxie should never have had one child so soon let alone fuckin' three so I don't acknowledge James, spawn of the plastic one. There are too many goddamn kids all over this show and most need to go away for a long time. Especially Violet and Charlotte, the hellspawn.

I just don't see any need to indulge Frank's longtime fetish for creating an ABC "super soap" anymore. A few crossovers were fine 10+ years ago but it went way too far some time ago. Let past ABC stars come on this show in new roles suited to this show's canvas, as was custom for decades. Keep crossover characters to a minimum. Angie Hubbard or David Hayward I'd make a rare (and brief) exception for given their occupation and history with certain folks, but Maria or her kids? I loved Maria but I don't care. Crossovers should be few and far between, and most actors should come on for GH roles on GH.

Didn't she and Wally divorce around then? There's your answer.

In fairness, they had to contrive a swift exit for her somehow.

Grain of salt, but:

Mulcahey's first hire? I wonder.

Honestly moving to streaming would be better for the show's longevity (and creative reboot) IMO. It's the only future soaps have for my money.

Oh God, I hadn't even really looked at that pic. Gross.

Patricia Mauceri (Carlotta, OLTL) featured in a Super Bowl Doritos ad with Jenna Ortega. I'll always have a deep fondness for her Carlotta and her work on the show despite the ugliness surrounding her departure.

I always get spooked by statements like that, but I don't think there have been any rumors of vultures swirling for GH up to this point that that quote would be the typical counterpoint to. So I'm choosing not to worry about it.

We're just very blessed so many mid-late '70s eps of GH have turned up - more and more it seems of '77-78 all the time.

I didn't know about that. That's insane even for them.

As I've said many a time, I like what I've seen of CVE and DOC as people. They seem witty, funny and talented in other creative spaces (YA books, etc). I think their work at GH was an improvement on Jean Passanante. But that's really not saying a lot, and I think the show ultimately has been micromanaged for a long time in ways we've all enumerated. So while I don't think we've ever gotten a look at what they could do unencumbered, I am glad GH is done being their arena. It's a very forgettable era for me.

I think she shone in the confrontation stuff with Esme at the courthouse just before she headed to Paris and Esme went off on her final berserk rampage. She reminded me a lot of the young Kimberly McCullough in that kind of stuff, and with Ava, etc; there is a core of intelligence and integrity. Could she improve, sure, but she's clearly been very popular with Chavez. The people who bash her are loud but not as big in number as they think, or it's about the reaction to the online Sprina fanbase, which - I have seen some crazy fúcking fanbases in my time. Those kids may get intense and at times annoying but they don't come close to some of the OLTL wars, or the S&C No Ordinary Love cabal (who once attempted to push for Kristina to be revealed as the product of Alexis' rape by Sonny's bodyguard). Or the GL crazies. And that's just a few off the top of my head.

She has her moments of weakness but I think Tabyana is pretty good most of the time. The haters are a very vocal minority I find, it's a lot of backlash against Spencer/Trina that feels overhyped and understaffed (and often has a racial subtext, hence the very talkative Spencer/Esme shippers). Plus other people love to pretend the prior actress was incredible when quite frankly I found her greener than TA.

She did, because she stopped doing the 6-week/whatever arcs that didn't work. (Ironically they probably would be ideal now for a seasonal arc-based streaming soap with breaks, which is probably the only future the medium has in America IMO) Then the show got into its groove. But from there I do think she absolutely revolutionized daytime, at least at ABC. Whether she pissed off a lot of people in the process, well, at least she didn't paw them like Rauch or Alarr.

Y&R is written sort of sleepily and on a whim at this point. IMO it's like they've internalized that 'these old fúcks want business stories' so they just half-ass random business names and discussions day after day and call it a business-focused story. It's not, it's just jargon strung together to fill time. Like, I still barely know what ELQ and Aurora on GH do but when they are brought up there is generally a purpose for a character or a (stupid) story point to specifically involve them or power within those companies that isn't just 'we're saying business names, happy?' There is usually something character/plot-oriented they are connected to. Same with Crimson, Deception, etc. I may find it ludicrous that Maxie or Carly or Sasha or whoever are so in charge of those companies or publications, but there are whole storylines centered around active things these businesses do; photo shoots, key fashion issues, Sasha going on that dumb TV show with Morgan Fairchild re: the Deceptor, etc. And we see them do it. It's not just vaporware. It's kind of wild that GH now regularly serves up the very basic fundamentals of this kind of story that Y&R used to make its brand.

She was wrong, AFAIC. But as I said when it came up in the GH HW thread Erika is entitled to her opinion. She also loved Michael Malone's stories so it's complicated. Gottlieb rubbed many actors at the show the wrong way and I can understand why, but I think she was a brilliant producer in terms of what got onscreen. Per Erika in the Jeff Giles book, Gottlieb told Clint Ritchie he had to stay sober to work there and enforced it. The instant she left he was back to the bar.

Then the show should change to fit her, lol. I wouldn't normally say that but honestly, there is little to nothing in the current show that is so worthwhile that I would not overhaul to accommodate better characters, actors and stories. Fortunately that may be coming. "Blaze" remains a passable recurring player I liked a bit in the very stupid Chase/Dr. Luke storyline but knew I would not find very interesting in major story if it came to her. Here we are.