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2024: The Directors and Writers Thread
If only Griffith was gone too so Ed Scott’s lavish production values could pay off decently told/written stories. Also, it feels like Owen Renfroe and Sally McDonald (the best directors on the show and two of the best on daytime) are directing every episode now, with an occasional one from Nancy Ortenberg. It looks like Eilbaum and Williford are out - Williford, of course, is directing one of the first batches of episodes for Beyond The Gates. Assuming they will need to fill this void - as great as they are, Renfroe and McDonald can’t direct everything, lol
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
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- Y&R: November 2024 Spoilers
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ALL: Bad Moves by Well Regarded Soap Writers/EPs
McKinsey left when Curlee was on maternity leave in 1992. McKinsey herself said Curlee wrote the character better than the team who were writing while she was on maternity leave: https://iriswheeler.tripod.com/tvguide19920811.html ---------- Logan: Word is you've been unhappy with the unsympathetic turn Alexandra has taken. McKinsey: I was very unhappy. What they've done with Alexandra during the last six months is close to assassination but I would have continued to play it if I'd been happy. That was not the straw that broke this camel's back. I've been doing daytime 22 years now. When you do it as long as I have, you go through a lot of periods where you don't like what they're writing for the characters. Or you don't like the person you're playing opposite. Or something, there's always something. But you're able to keep going for various reasons: One, you need the money and, two, you like the people you're working with, the family feeling you have there. But when you get tired, when you find that you just don't have a minute in the week that you can do anything but that show, then those things get bigger. When you're spending 12 or 13 hours a day there, those things suddenly get huge. When you're tired, you can't get past the other problems. But this should be no secret to anybody. In 1978, I told Procter & Gamble, 'I can put up with a lot. Bad writing. Bad acting. Bad working conditions. But when I'm tired, I get angry. And when I get angry, you don't want me around.' I'm very professional. I behave really well. And I always do my work really well. But when I get tired and angry, I begin to behave in a way that is not me. I'm not proud of it and it shocks people. I was that tired when we started Texas because Another World had done that to me. Logan: Quitting was the only solution? McKinsey: (Getting a little testy) I'm burnt out and the only solution to that is to stop -- and stop immediately. It's like trying to doctor a major wound with a bandaid. If they had said, 'Well, [McKinsey's favorite head writer] Nancy Curlee is coming back and that'll put Alexandra back to where she used to be,' that would have been wonderful but that wouldn't have fixed it. -----
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Y&R: November 2024 Discussion Board
Sharon and Daniel should bang and have hate sex, just to make Giggly Heffa's head explode when she wakes up. It would also be karma for Giggly Heffa for banging her husband when her daughter died.
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GH: November 2024 Discussion Thread
I will say the transformation was rather sudden this year, regardless of what her methods were. This is the best she’s looked in years - and there is no stigma or shame in using weight loss meds, a ton of celebrities do. There shouldn’t be a stigma or shame attached to it if it works and it is a medically approved option.
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ALL: Bad Moves by Well Regarded Soap Writers/EPs
And it’s lucky it even got those 12 years under the radar at that.
- BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
- GH: November 2024 Discussion Thread
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2024: The Directors and Writers Thread
Unless he's back tomorrow, I don't think the horribly static Michael Eilbaum has directed in a few weeks either.
- GH: November 2024 Discussion Thread
- GH: November 2024 Discussion Thread
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- GH: November 2024 Discussion Thread
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Y&R: November 2024 Discussion Board
MTS and SW look stunning today.
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ALL: Bad Moves by Well Regarded Soap Writers/EPs
I wish some of that storyline could be posted somewhere (the DAYS archive exists, so it’s available). GL told the same story with Meta on radio years before, and those radio episodes are every bit, if not more, gripping than anything I’ve ever seen on television. DAYS seemed to have bad luck with recasts and those characters delved into almost irrelevance after popular actresses left. Flannery and Alexander in particular went on to more notable roles in daytime that seemed to erase their previous success on DAYS from public consciousness.
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ALL: Bad Moves by Well Regarded Soap Writers/EPs
I agree that the way Jill sometimes spoke to Mamie did have some racial undertones that I can see clearly now as I’m older. She was dismissive of Esther, too, but I always felt she had a visceral hatred for Mamie. I stumbled across this promo, and when a white woman speaks of a black woman “knowing her place” it does take on a totally different meaning/undertone, whether that was the intention or not.
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ALL: Bad Moves by Well Regarded Soap Writers/EPs
If any OLTL diva suffered in the 00’s, it was Dorian/Robin Strasser. I don’t think they ever quite got Dorian right again when Robin returned in 2003.
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ALL: Bad Moves by Well Regarded Soap Writers/EPs
By the end of the ABC run, Erica just felt so irrelevant and watered down. You still saw her, but she lacked purpose for much of that final decade to me.
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ALL: Soap Stars - Where are they now?
Debbi Morgan also stays busy (even if this is Tyler Perry crap). Ignore/skip NPH and Burkta, but Debbi was on a local NY morning talk show last week and spoke a little bit about Angie/AMC as well.
- B&B: November 2024 Discussion Thread
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ALL: Bad Moves by Well Regarded Soap Writers/EPs
Was Flannery still in the role because didn’t she leave that year? I know her replacement wasn’t very popular and Laura never again had the same status she had when Flannery was in the role.