BetterForgotten

His body is about the only thing interesting or appealing about him.

EastEnders Revealed: the original Angie and why she was fired 30 years ago She just looks wrong....

Tracy is such an ill-defined and poorly constructed character, but I did like the actress prior to Kate Ford who played her in the late 90's. Since Kate Ford, it seemed like Corrie wanted to have their own version of Janine Butcher, but were never able to fully pull it off with this character.

I do think Deirdre's years away from Ken and pre-Ken were probably her best years. She was probably at her most vital after their first marriage had ended. I think Anne was very underrated as an actress, and I hate that the writing for Deidre's from the past decade will probably leave many having the wrong impression of both Anne and Deirdre. She was an amazing dramatic actress when they gave her the material.

I honestly don't know if I can take watching either Tracy or Ken without the possibility of Deirdre ever coming back. I always thought Anne was far superior in the acting department than Bill Roache (he was lucky to have her IMO, even if I grew tired or Deirdre and Ken), and I won't even go into the disaster I find Kate Ford to be.

Apparently, the show's writer's conference was today (where they plan out stories for the next year or so). Letitia, Jessie, and Lacey attended. I wonder if they all asked for better stories..... Sharon Batten posted this on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SharonJBatten/status/562006824829063168/photo/1 An Instagram pic with a junior level writer/trainee: http://instagram.com/p/ykwuE8Khvu/

Just re-watching the Deirdre and Me special that originally aired in in 2012 when Anne celebrated her 40th anniversary on the show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TfTb2kwfbU I think the Jon Lindsay stuff and subsequent prison sentence for Deirdre was the first Corrie storyline I remember reading about online and keeping up with in the late 90's. The Ken/Deirdre/Mike triangle seems very inspired by American soaps. I know triangles had been done before on British soaps and they're certainly not unique to just soap operas, but something about the way that storyline was told from what I've seen of it feels more akin to American soap storytelling.

Apparently, the cliffhanger special re-purposed most of the clips from the 25th anniversary special, just with an updated rank. I think Michelle Fowler is still in the top 10, which is a strong testament to how strong and vital that character was to the first decade of the show. Someone at Walford Web did their own list of the characters with the most cliffhangers about a month ago, and this was the result of their top 20: 1. Phil Mitchell-253 Duff Duffs 2. Ian Beale-185 Duff Duffs 3. Sharon Rickman-157 Duff Duffs 4. Grant Mitchell-119 Duff Duffs 5. Pat Evans-118 Duff Duffs 6. Pauline Fowler-116 Duff Duffs 7. Michelle Fowler-111 Duff Duffs 8. Kat Moon-109 Duff Duffs 9. Dot Branning-104 Duff Duffs 10. Kathy Beale-100 Duff Duffs 11. Alfie Moon-99 Duff Duffs 12. Mark Fowler-98 Duff Duffs 13. Peggy Mitchell-98 Duff Duffs 14. Max Branning-94 Duff Duffs 15. Den Watts-92 Duff Duffs 16. Bianca Butcher-89 Duff Duffs 17. Janine Butcher-83 Duff Duffs 18. Ronnie Mitchell-80 Duff Duffs 19. Stacey Branning-77 Duff Duffs 20. Arthur Fowler-75 Duff Duffs As for Pam, I don't think I necessarily disagree with killing Pat if Pam didn't want to stay long-term anymore. I just can't imagine Pat as one of those characters that randomly visits from time to time. But the way it was handled with Pam seems shady.

Hopefully we'll never see those characters again. ::shutter::

Laura Wright may as well be playing a completely different character because that's what it is.

There's so many stories EastEnders has tried to redo over the years - Michelle Fowler's, Sharongate, Kat/Zoe to name a few. That "muvva" scene is by far the most iconic moment in British soap of the 00's, and obviously EastEnder's definitive moment in the 00's as well.

I believe he still writes for Casualty, and of course he co-created Holby City and served as EP there from 2007-2010.

The BBC is doing an online retrospective series called "Back To Ours" in preparation for the 30th anniversary. They've released some short promo clips, the first episode in the series seems to be with Shane and Jessie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpH4MXm91gg

Ashdown was a big part of the show's issues, IMO. He needed to go. He wrote some great episodes in the 90's and early 00's (I believe he wrote the Dot/Ethel assisted suicide episode), but he should have never been a story consultant, and ever since the Santer era, all of the big episodes they gave him to write were horribly formulaic. Maybe the BBC should ask Tony McHale to come back and be EP when DTC is ready to go? It would probably be easier than getting Phelps or Jordan back.

Phelps wrote a great deal of the Shannis stuff and Den's return and death stuff. Though, I think Phelps may have been more interested in Dennis, Den, and Chrissie than Sharon...

So Sharon's biological mother contacted her tonight? I know we met her briefly in the early 90's and she only saw Sharon as a friend and not her daughter. Anyway, I wonder how DTC is going to f.uck this up, as I assume it's probably going to lead to some of Sharon's biological family possibly coming. Though, as they ignore Sharon for the most part these days, I wonder if this will lead to anything as well... Also a Vicki and Spencer mention? LOL

The story has been so badly executed, who seriously gives a f.uck anymore (or ever)?

The last scene of the show is one of the best moments ever in a soap finale, IMO. It just went straight to the heart of the show. Helen looks sort of devastated, I don't know how she got though it as well as she did.

I hope her and Tony Bennett lose that Grammy on 2/8. I will be so pissed if the sack of sh!t duets album won something. It needs to go to Queen Barbra Streisand, it would be the first win for Babs in a competitive category since 1986, and I think it would be a great TV "moment" too...

I wonder how much longer DTC will stick around after the 30th anniversary. Producers have a tendency to leave soon after milestone anniversaries on this show. Santer left after the 25th, and Kathleen Hutchinson's brief stint came to an end around the time of the 20th. Also, Matthew Robinson left around the time of the 15th anniversary (both Robinson and John Yorke are actually credited in the 15th anniversary episode). I kind of hope that Sarah Phelps's one-off return is paving them way for her to replace DTC...

Josh and Reva always seemed so damn isolated from the rest of the show as I watch more stuff from the late 80's and 1990. To be honest, they're often my least favorite part of the 1990 episodes I've seen. Its almost feels like they're on a separate show sometimes.

Did Alice (regardless of who was playing her) and Rachel interact much after Rachel got intertwined with Mac and Iris? It seemed like there was an intention on reinventing Rachel as a character after her involvement with the Cory's, so many of her prior relationships were not emphasized as much after that.

I think this storyline is my first memory of watching GL on my own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW_knfRP6sw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HstJy4nEHVM

On Graham's first show (So Graham Norton), Patsy Palmer, Natalie Cassidy, Jack Ryder, Barbara Windsor, Jessie Wallace, Martine McCutcheon, and Charlie Brooks were all guests at various points as well.