BetterForgotten

The 15th Anniversary episode probably had the strangest use of Julia's Theme ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgcWfPT1FH0 But still, even though I can see some flaws in retrospect, the 1998-2002 era was really the last amazing era of the show (and along with with Corrie's 2002-2004 run, probably the last consistently good time for a British soap). Those years are the last time I remember the show being cultural, and not just during the anniversaries, this was the last era storylines from the show were headline news on UK papers and tabloids almost ever damn week. I often wonder if adding that 4th weekly episode in 2001 was the beginning of some sort of downfall for the show. It worked in the beginning, but after a year or two, seemed to really take a strain on the show. Something snapped in 2003 that's never been the same again for whatever reason. The show can still be good for periods at a time, but nothing sustainable like it was in the 80's, for much of the 90's, and the early 00's.

So, looks like DTC has been given a special contract with the BBC, which means there's probably no end in sight for him on this show. He'll probably end up being EP for longer than Santer was. I don't think that's a good thing for the show. http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/eastenders-bobby-beale-away-sister-5207497

I wonder if Adam Woodyatt now regrets this interview: http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a203908/enders-ian-kathy-return-wouldnt-work.html

The whole purpose of the Backstage Live thing was to focus on the live episode. It was sloppily put together and produced, and there was tons of filler, so it was never going to be more beyond that. I had no expectations for it, so I wasn't disappointed nor I did I give one toss about it. BBC 3 should have brought back the Reveled documentary series - I would have done one for the entire live week, and three focusing on the various decades of the show - 80's, 90's, and 00's.

I hope Kathy's only involvement with Phil is through Ben. I hope they don't try to re-do Sharongrate in reserve (and without Grant). Sharon and Phil should end their relationship for natural reasons instead of an affair. Kathy should be primarily involved with Ian and Ben. I wonder how she and Sharon will get along. If I remember correctly, they were on their way to rebuilding their friendship in 1995 shortly before Sharon left, but it was never 100% again. And of course, they haven't seen one another since 1995! I hope with time they remember they actually knew one another before the Mitchell's and Kathy and Angie were best friends and Sharon is one of Ian's ONLY friends. It's just too damn bad that Pat is no longer with us. I would love to see her with Kathy and Sharon again, and she would have been a wonderful comfort to Ian during this Lucy storyline.

I liked Tamzin, she always seemed like a class act. Mel just got such a huge push in that era, I often wondered what Matthew Robinson and John Yorke were so fascinated about. There was never any depth to that character. She left at the right time though, and she wasn't pushed as much by the end of her run when the Slater's had started dominating airtime.

Oh god, I always hated Mel with a fiery passion, even though the 1998-2002 era is very close to my hear for several reasons. The Mark Jr. stuff is better left untold as Sue Tully and Ross Kemp will never return. That story just can't happen without those two. I don't think I could ever accept anyone other than Sue as Michelle. Sue and the character are too ingrained with the first decade of the show for me.

I know they tried for years to get Anita back on the show (but she always refused). Barbara Windsor herself also tried to talk her into it (Babs and Anita are good friends), but Anita has always said that era of her life is over. They only killed her off due to that. I think John Yorke almost got her back on the show when Sharon came back in 2001, but Anita backed out and they later killed Angie.

I've heard that Peter Dean wasn't liked by much of the cast and production staff. I wonder what the real story with him was.

For anyone who didn't want to search though the EE Live Backstage clip, here is the trailer alone of upcoming scenes: Tons of sh!t with the Carter's obviously, but I'm mostly interested in the other stuff - Peter/Lauren's goodbye, Sharon's bio family, Sharon trying to help Dot, and the Harry revisitation with Kat (as I hope this is a fully realized and character-driven story for her finally). I'm guessing Kat refuses to initially participate in a case against Harry when one of his other victims pops up, and Linda finds out and tries to project her own insecurities about her own rape on to Kat, which causes the fight in the Vic.

Yeah, Adam posted that message on Twitter too. https://twitter.com/AdamWoodyatt/status/568856378917433345

So Corrie and Emmerdale sent flowers, how nice. https://twitter.com/dominictc/status/567661525679489024/photo/1 https://twitter.com/bbceastenders/status/568843888162680832/photo/1

If Lauren has unisex twins, they'll probably be named Bradley and Lucy. Cursed kids.

I know Elsie is regarded as the first "tart with a heart" in British soap, and Bet certainly followed in that heritage. However, I think Bet's character traits and development has had a massive influence in the tart with a heart character archetype. For example, I think Pat and Kat from EastEnders were heavily constructed in the same vein as Bet, even if they have their distinct differences.

I wonder if Lauren will have twins to carry on the Beale tradition...

I <3 Bet. One of the few soap characters I think that has worked well with both camp and serious drama.

31:45 into this Backstage Live clip and you can see the preview clips of upcoming scenes from future episodes/stories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5hrYK8fVpw

I want Janine [in a few years time] to have Sharon's 2001 comeback. A secret return where it's revealed that Janine is the new owner of the Vic. She deserves it.

I guess the show can now claim it has 3 characters dating back to the first episode (Ian, Sharon, and Kathy). The most it has had in a long time.

Madonna is pushing 60, she's never going to dominate the singles chart in the way she did in the 80's and 90's. Name another person in her age group that's scoring hit singles? She's the only living pop star from her generation that's still has some cultural resonance. Also, she's pretty much a touring artist at this point (by her own admission). No other woman has been as successful tour-wise as she has in the past decade. She's also a global icon - not many stars have the same international following as she has (even if she's no longer scoring hit single after hit single).

Such bad camp.

What a clusterfuck this whole things turned out to be. I mean, I expected it, but this just got seriously lame. DTC needs to be on his way out by the end of the year.

Gillian kind of looks disturbed here....

I think my grandmother had Jane's wedding dress as a tablecloth once.