Everything posted by DramatistDreamer
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I admit to not knowing much about Days since the only experience I have as a viewer is briefly when I had roommates that used to watch when I was in college but I think that Days hanging in there may also have something to do with it being the last remaining soap on that network. I think so few are left that if one goes away now, it would be highly noticeable and I don't think that any of these networks want the type of backlash that ABC got after dumping AMC and OLTL where the two replacement shows "The Chew" and "The Revolution" met with a lot of resistance. "The Revolution" in particular, flopped spectacularly. Any show that might replace Days could conceivably go the way of "The Revolution". I'm not sure that's a risk the network is willing to take, at least, not right now.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
The perfect time to have begun to do these types of cross-overs would have been early-mid 1990s, come to think of it when both shows were kind of searching for their identities, especially at the beginning of the whole OJ Simpson saga and trial when soaps were truly trying to cling to their viewers to compete with the circus of the arrest, trial and aftermath. I don't believe the soaps really launched a serious fight for ratings with some compelling stories. The mid 1990s, starting in '94 were sort of a drab time for both shows, artistically and creatively. The talented cast were still there but the writing just wasn't. Procter & Gamble is the obstacle and it's a significant one since they, not CBS own the rights to those shows. How I wish that the mother of soaps Irna Phillips had an estate that had retained control of those shows, things might have been different then.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
It was quite telling to me that Alison was the only one who did porn. It was implied that both Amber and Alison had done some meth but only Alison was the one who developed an insatiable appetite for it and was doing porn to support her habit. From what I remember, Amber was the one who ended up contacting Emily (against Alison's wishes) to rescue Emily and oddly, Emily engaged Dusty for help with the rescue effort. The show was just so random at that point. As unpopular as Amber could sometimes be on Y&R, I found it fascinating that the show still wanted to "protect" the character by restricting her to a little drug use but not the full-blown dark underbelly of drugs & porn. I just think that the two shows were in completely different places and it showed. I vaguely recall an online component, so you're probably correct on that. I know that ATWT was trying to develop more of an interactive feel and engage viewers with an online technological component. Had the show hung on a few more years, those interactive seeds that were planted may have borne some fruit but as it was, most ATWT viewers (who skewed older and were not exactly tech savvy) weren't quite ready for it and ATWT really didn't fully invest and implement it properly anyway. I was on and off with the show in the last decade but I do remember the InTurn contest as yet another attempt to engage viewers in an interactive way. I would have love a cross-over during the 1980s or even early 1990s when both shows still resembled themselves and were at a high in terms of critical success. To see a power conference of corporate leaders in the region with Lucinda Walsh and Alexandra Spaulding would have been lit! Or to see a medical convention with the likes of Dr. Bob Hughes, Dr. Ed Bauer, Dr. Susan Stewart, Dr. Rick Bauer, Dr. John Dixon! Or to see some big lawsuit over water contamination that is affecting Springfield and Oakdale's water pipes and have Ross Marler, Tom Hughes, Jessica Griffin all consulting on the suit! Or to see one of those natural disasters that hit several mid-Western towns and cities affect either Springfield or Oakdale, or parts of both and have the towns/cities pre-eminent families come together to raise funds to aid in the recovery. So. many. ideas!
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Some would say that P&G wanted out of producing soaps since they canceled AW in 1999, which was a full decade before the cancellation of GL. I tend to think that by the time AW got canceled, the decision had been made to phase out their remaining soaps, basically to let them fade into oblivion without intervention.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
No, they're really not. That little stint they did with Alison and Amber was something of a lark, borne out of desperation for synergy. Y&R was Sony/Bell and ATWT was P&G. Had both shows truly existed in the same universe, Michael Baldwin would never have been able to go on ATWT as Michael Baldwin, where he was once known as Kurt McColl. TBH, ATWT existed more in the same universe as AW and other P&G soaps. That's why the Jake and Cass cross-overs made sense. Bay City was often mentioned as existing not too far from Oakdale. I always wanted GL and ATWT to do a cross-over, they were both P&G soaps, had a legacy of having shared some of the same writers and had a similar feel of having a matriarch-centered canvas with "warmth" to it. Y&R had more of a cool, slick tone and it really had no legacy of being matriarchal-centered. I think that, for the most part ATWT and Y&R naturally existed in two different universes. The Alison storyline, for the most part was still relegated to ATWT's universe, it had no impact on any existing stories in Genoa City. I think the couple of episodes where they said that Alison was in Genoa City seemed oddly out of place with the regular show. It also seemed as if those episodes were filmed separately, apart from the rest of the show, as if it existed entirely in a vacuum, away from the regular Y&R.
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The Tennis Thread
Bianca Andreescu was hungry and played like there was no tomorrow. Serena's serve let her down and her footwork stopped and by the time she was able to play up to her normal standard, it was too late for her. Congrats to Andreescu! I've known since the beginning of the season that she has been one who could snatch titles. Let's not have a contest about who can be a drama queen because according to Kerber, Bianca has made a name for herself in that category as well, lol. That second set was thrilling. It's rare to see a tennis match get that level of full-on, full-throated cheering and excitement.
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The Tennis Thread
Arthur Ashe the man and his legacy deserved more than that ugly as* stadium.
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The Politics Thread
To say that it hasn't been a good week for Boris Johnson would be an understatement. Even the average Conservative party member is wondering how such a small majority was able to get him in when the populace didn't vote for him. And the same tabloids where he used to rule the roost with his editorial pen, now assails him as the worst PM in history. Oh well.
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The Politics Thread
Friday evening news dump incoming-
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The Media/Journalism Thread
OMG.
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The Politics Thread
To call this a "Longread" seems like a massive understatement. It is a highly granular, detailed and lengthy account of the ties between Tulsi Gabbard and the right-wing Hindu nationalist party. It begins with the origins of the RSS that had roots in fascism and even admiration of aspects of Nazism, it's spread the Indian diaspora outside of the continent, up to Modi's rise in Indian politics and how it intertwined with Gabbard's development in a Hari Krishna sect and her political rise and cultivation of as well as reliance on a network of Hindu nationalist donors. This article references an article that was published in the Intercept several months ago (which, I read, I believe it was the Intercept anyway) but this article is far more detailed, some might say exhaustively so. I read the entire thing, likely because of my interest in world politics, particularly in the Caribbean, Latin America and the Indian Subcontinent but to others who may not want to read the entire thing, the author has a series of subtweets that seem to highlight the important aspects of the article.
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The Tennis Thread
Naomi Osaka, the defending champ is out!
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
33 years ago, Kim Hughes had her own Labor Day, going into labor and giving birth to Chris, her son with Bob Hughes in a dynamic episode that still has yet to be posted to YouTube (or any video sharing platform AFAIK). Back then, ATWT always had truly memorable Labor Day episode's, usually a cliffhanger, made even more intense by the fact that the story resolution was delayed by increasing US Open tennis coverage often pre-empting episodes.
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Netflix: Cobra Kai: Karate Kid TV Series Sequel
Well enjoy because Johnny's perspective gets plenty of story throughout the first season. It's actually a pretty entertaining show to boot, imo.
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The Tennis Thread
And hadn't there just been a mass shooting in Texas earlier that same day?!
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The Politics Thread
OMG, I do not remember that sitcom at all! Although it seems like that wooden dummy would almost certainly make a better president than the wood pile lumbering around the White House right now.
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The Politics Thread
What a dummy.
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The Politics Thread
Is anyone surprised by this? Trump has special contempt for the poor, even as he uses them to bolster his methods to enrich himself and his cronies.
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The Tennis Thread
That was a nice moment between Osaka and Gauff but no way will that make me forget that we have a horrendous man in the White House and that people are being assaulted and killed every day because of who they are and what they look like. Perhaps Eric Braeden can forget, that's his privilege. I don't have that privilege.
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The Tennis Thread
It would not surprise me if Naomi defends her title if she sustains this level of play. Osaka is completely focused and giving absolutely no quarter to Coco.
- Oh no, ANOTHER Mass Shooting in the U.S. SMH
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The Tennis Thread
Re: the Medvedev thing-- I was half-expecting him to say something like "Your president works for mine...so deal with that!"
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The Politics Thread
Trump and the cockroaches may be the only ones left, with the careless way he handles issues of national security and classified material. Hope we all make it past 2020.
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The Tennis Thread
Richard Williams wrote the blueprint and playbook on this. All they would need to do is to follow that. Osaka's dad followed this.
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The Tennis Thread
Did Novak tell someone that he'll find him? What happened?