DramatistDreamer

Are those people watching the Young and The Restless though? Or maybe Cinemax after dark? 🙃 It would be like today's daytime soaps to write stories for the viewers least likely to watch. Very much 'on brand'.

Their motivation behind the storyline decisions for Mariah are so warped and imo, it's more of their perception of her looks, based on the fact that she's not a size 0 (The inverse seems to be the reason why they constantly have Lily, in lingerie, sexing up these men who look noticeably older than her). Whenever I've seen CG outside of Y&R, she always looks pretty. It makes me wonder how Heather Tom would have been treated had she stayed with Y&R. I remember an interview many years ago, in which Tom said that someone commented on her weight, as if to suggest that she was overweight, to which Heather remarked "I'm a size 4!" It often makes me wonder-- who exactly does Y&R think they're writing for? I mean, who is their audience?

Thought some of you TP fans might appreciate this.

Years ago, I mentioned what a missed opportunity to write a relevant story that was and as parts of the retail sector continue to struggle (e.g. traditional brick and mortar department stores), the creative decisions that Y&R decided to make in regards to that Fenmore storyline seem even more short-sighted now.

Even before this, we got to see the genesis of the Men's Line spearheaded by Jill Foster Abbott, and yes, we even saw Brenda Dickson as a businesswoman and being convincing as one too! In order to write convincing business storylines, some degree of specificity is a must, which requires effort, something that Y&R hasn't shown much of in years. In the last nine or so years, the storytelling has been somewhat vague to the point of near abstraction. It almost seems like no one who writes this show wants to commit to details, lest attentive viewers and fans check them on the show's specifics, making the producers, show runner accountable for what they put out there.

That was the ONLY thing that convinced me that they weren't the same movie, lol.

Why does this remind me of that movie she did with Kevin Bacon, 😂? Very similar premise, ao much so that I got confused for several moments. "You Should Have Left" was the name of the movie.

Maya Wiley is spoken of by progressives, but so is Dianne Morales. NYC politics is not NY state politics. One cannot take a cursory look and have things figured out. Mark Greene and Christine Quinn were once frontrunners in their respective mayoral races as well, until they weren't. I guess we will see how the primary (NYC' first foray with Ranked Choice voting) shapes up in June.

There are several other candidates that are in Yang's way and can, in fact stop him from being elected.

Such a missed prime opportunity to have an Earth Day tie-in with the spinning globe when ATWT was still on the air. Seeing the infamous Fiona, lecture everyone on how to buy groceries while saving money during that NYE '85 episode made me chuckle. I don't remember seeing any other episodes on YouTube where the character appears. In about 7 or 8 months, Fiona's advice is revealed to have more sinister intensions, lol.

This seems as good a thread as any to post this article, as we have often discussed music rights affecting streaming and boxed set collections if classic soap episodes. Interesting to note that the musicians themselves want their music to be on these shows but the record companies like Sony are the biggest obstacle. I would imagine that indepedently produced artists, unattached to a major label would present more attractive prospect to television showrunners these days. Good for shows like Freaks and Geeks, for not compromising quality.

Those are wonderful keepsakes that you can enjoy, time and again. I bet you are glad that you grabbed them when you had the chance. Now, if only the collective parts of the entire industry made a holistic effort to get a visual and audio history of the roots of the genre itself, the socio-political aspects (civil rights, the sexual revolution, post WWII economic gains, consumerism) and the changes in daytime drama and what was really behind it. There is so much that is worthy of introspection. And of course, there are the personal stories of Phillips, the writers, the cast and crew, the network and production executives. I feel like we're running out of time with some of this. There are actors who had personal interaction with the creator of the genre and we're not engaging with them the way that we should. They won't be here forever and we haven't really talked enough to them about the specifics of those early days of daytime drama. That GL podcast was a great listen but it was but a brief snippet and it reminded me of how much archival footage, episodes, etc. are sitting somewhere, possibly degrading because of neglect. Bothersome.

Absolutely. When the PP/TOLN soaps chose different writers than some soap bloggers' faves, boy were there some bitter Betty's coming for those AMC/OLTL reboots!

There was one match at the USO, on one of the smaller courts where Feliciano Lopez and another player, I don't remember if the player was from Spain or Argentina, but they were endlessly bickering in Spanish at the end of the match, all the way through the handshake, as they packed up their gear... just as one walked toward the exit to the locker room, they other hurried to catch up so that they continue bickering. So bizarre, yet so funny.

There has been discussion in the GL thread but it really has been imprinted in my mind that we really still have actors still with us that are directly linked to Irna Phillips, yet there is no Ken Burnsian-style documentary on the history of the daytime drama! I know there have been podcast interviews and NATAS sit-down interviews tucked away on YouTube done 20 years ago but never on am expansive scale that would actually get the genre recognized on a cultural and artistic level. Talk about Six Degrees Of Separation? We have actors who are literally one Degree of Separation, yet there is little recognition of this. I don't get it.

That was a pretty good status discussion. Here's your quote: "You can do the soaps for 30 minutes at 2-4 episodes a week tops like the UK. You can airdrop them in a package on streaming, 30-40 episodes done in seasonal blocks, arc-based then let them take months off, like PC did with its production schedule but with an actual break in broadcast/release. It's perfectly doable and it's something Linda Gottlieb experimented with (and never fully abandoned, IMO) 30 years ago at OLTL. Also something Degrassi kind of did more recently. " ________________________ Still, a fair number of soap die-hards expect the 30-60 minutes, 5 days per week format when it comes to their favorite soap. I even heard chatter demanding that Netflix do this. When has Netflix ever streamed a daily show?? I feel like a fair number of soap fans would still have to be taught the vagaries if online streaming because they still don't get it.

Another one with Evans. SMH.

Yeah, but any truly well-made documentary will appeal to an audience beyond those fans. A thoroughly researched, well done documentary will garner attention and interest in the subject. And I am not talking about reboots or anything, just enough regard for the genre to look at preservation efforts (or lack thereof).

I hope that there is a second chance, but sometimes there are no second chances, especially for a genre that is often thought of as belonging to an era that has come and gone. I do hope that at some point someone can see the possibility of trying again.

You're welcome. It's like you said, people have no idea what they have missed. I blame P&G/PGP for this. Something that I have been saying for years was mentioned in this podcast segment- the devaluing of the impact and artistic value of the soap opera because it was perceived as a genre directed at women. That is a massive part of why the archives have been so poorly preserved, if preserved at all. It's also why I have been saying for years that the genre needs a very thorough, scholarly and entertaining documentary series (a la Ken Burns' "Jazz", "Baseball" or the recent one on Country music for the History Of the Daytime Drama. And a big part of that should be a "warts and all" examination of Irna Phillips, on all her genius, faults and foibles, the sexism she undoubtedly faced as well as the actions she took in its wake to build thos genre. Until we get something of that level, with that sort of gravitas and scholarly examination, the likes of P&G will continue to devalue parts of their entertainment legacy, because they can and aren't facing pressure to do otherwise.

France should probably (although it's unlikely) take a look at their role in this, as they supported and helped with training of the fighting force that grew out of the fighting in Libya, that later would become part of the rebel force in Chad.

Surprising (okay, maybe not) that this has received virtually no mainstream news coverage. Then again, Deby was an autocrat who had been in power for thirty years and he had support from the U.S. as well as E.U. countries like France. And unsurprisingly, his son is being installed in his place.

This won't bring George Floyd back to his loved ones but it is all the justice to be expected for today and that does count for something today. I must admit that the emotion kind of washed over me once I actually had a moment to process the actual verdict.

Here's the link: https://the1a.org/segments/guiding-light/