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Many of us already knew these aspects but it is interesting that Krugman acknowledged them nonetheless.

It's very unfortunate that there was so much complaining and whining about the format. I often think that soap fans have no foresight in terms of what can happen down the road. Neither AMC nor OLTL were "my shows" (I grew up watching CBS soaps, for the most part) but I was eager to watch these shows, thinking that perhaps the show of support would encourage other producers to want to 'dust off' other cancelled soaps and revive them, on a less ratings-focused platform, where they could get a little more time to build and grow. Yes, Prospect Park was a mess, but there might have other production companies who might have gotten the impetus to join the trend, and they might not have been a mess. Who knows? And all those people saying "I would've watched if it had been streaming on Netflix". Well, Netflix cancels shows the fastest of all the major streamers, so there was no guarantee that these reboots would have been renewed. Hulu was hardly the hinterlands of streaming platforms. I wish that fans of these shows would take the time to think and ponder the possibility that a genre that skews as old as daytime soaps might not get another chance to see another soap stream anywhere other than in bootleg clips and episodes of varying degrees of quality now because there was so much moaning and whining on previous efforts. And you're right, House Of Cards was extremely popular, so there obviously was a mainstream audience watching dramas on streaming platforms. As The World Turns fans keep talking about when AOL provided a streaming platform for that show's episodes but I guess that was seen as acceptable since ATWT was still airing on a terrestrial broadcast platform, rather than solely in cyberspace? It would be nice to see a day when ATWT, GL, etc. could be streamed on Paramount+ but we'd only get soap opera die-hard fans complaining about the shows not airing in their regular T.V. time-slots.

Oh, yeah, that spinning globe pretty much remained the same for quite a number of years, with the most minute of tweaks. Both GL and ATWT had such strong identifiers with the Lighthouse and The Spinning Globe that it was likely a question of veering to far away from a visual image that was so strongly connected with their identity. P&G seemed like a highly traditional company and probably viewed it as anathema to change too drastically, the look of their two stalwarts, unless they felt they had little choice. In the late 90s when the show seemed to fall into a kind of rut, and ratings trended downward, you began to see a highly noticeable tinkering with the look and sound of the theme. That's my take on the concept, anyway.

Funny how many people have claimed the opposite. Make up your minds, people! 😬😜

Interesting findings. For several years, I have said that I don't understand the mentality of Democrats that insist on leaving certain states "for dead" because they are red states and not perceived as "winnable". Why not take the time to at least attempt to build some type of infrastructure that could pay off several years down the road? And here it is, benefitting candidates at the top of the ticket.

And did Lisa refer to Duncan as "...that ugly Scotch person"?

Lucinda: "Big, dumb cop". 😂 Shannon mocking Duncan by mimicking his laugh always struck me as funny every time she did it.

OMG According to some reports that I have read, 6 out of 8 of the victims of the Indianapolis shooting were of the Sikh faith. A hate crimes investigation is in order.

Yup, by 1988, they had tweaked the theme song. They also removed most of the percussive elements from the song, which I didn't care for, at all. It sounded overly synthesized, overly "produced". If anything, they should've stripped it down a bit. Added strings, the sound of a piano, changed the pace, either slower or a bit quicker. Ironically, the variations on the theme song that they sometimes did within actual scenes were usually very lovely.

There were some minor tweaks that go unnoticed by most people but having studied music, I can tell. I will say that the basic melody stayed the same. If you ask me the theme song actually got worse when they changed it some years later. I never understood why they just do a variation of this or the first theme song to make more contemporary. Technically, Y&R has had the same basic theme for decades, so having the same basic theme was not the problem, if you tweak it in the right ways to update it in a way that works.

Surprised. Not.

Just based on results this week, MC is reading very much like a Challenger tournament.

On an impulse, I decided to check out a livestream of the last 25 minutes of today's episode and it looks like somebody is trying to give Victoria a backbone where Victor is concerned. It's been over 15 years since the character showed any spine with her father. I haven't been watching, so I don't know whether there have been improvement in how Victoria is characterized as a businesswoman. Yes, there is a high school set, so there's that but who is writing this awful, dated dialogue for these teens?! Maybe consult with someone who knows something about how teenagers and young people talk. Also, the actor who plays Moses looked so adorable in his headshot, why is he being styled with zero swag?? Didn't he used to live in NYC with his Mom Sophia (by the way, has Sophia been seen with her teen son in GC yet)? No young man, let alone young Black man who grew up in NYC is going to go around being styled that dumpy way. Also, does no one in production know how to style curly hair?? Just a mess!🥴 Is Stafford still resistant to being paired PB? Looking at them both today and I no longer see that much of an age difference between them. I'm not sure why she would object now when Jack now looks less than five years older than Phyllis at this point. That's not meant to be a slight against either, btw. Maybe because I have been watching so many classic episodes, this Y&R feels very unsatisfying, like there's nothing to dig into. It barely held my interest for 20 minutes. Maybe it's more interesting with Hilary's kinfolk (*shrugs*).

I doubt that would provide the answer l, but thanks for responding anyway. Maybe if Alan Locher (or somebody) has a livestream with ATWT producers like he did with GL, I could ask? I wouldn't watch the whole thing but I might watch long enough to ask the question and bounce, lol.

Gotta love Lucille Bluth! I'm really curious, mainly because P&G has used the old excuse that digitizing their episodes would be too much work but I suspect that the workload, while not insignificant, is likely less than what they claim it is. Certainly, had they allowed the SoapClassics people to continue their work of digitization of episodes in 2012, they certainly would've made considerable progress by now. Could you have imagined how many episodes that could've been in a ten year span? I imagine that, at the very least, some of the most requested episodes in the show: last 30 years would have been digitized and either uploaded to their website or sold as DVDs/downloads. That would have been incredible!

Question: When ATWT used AOL's online portal to stream episodes of their show, were those episodes uploaded as digitized episodes, or were they analog episodes that were streamed digitally on AOL's service? Does anyone know?

Here is a pre-Marland episode where you can judge for yourself what state you think Lily and Lucinda's relationship is in.

Amanda Seyfried is set to appear in a special featuring POTUS #44 and #46 encouraging vaccination.

If you were a Black and/or Brown person coming into adulthood during the mid to late 90s and connected to NYC, DMX's emergence on the music scene was inescapable. It also seemed to show the ascent of Black biker culture out of the shadows onto city streets in a big way. It was unforgettable and a sight to behold! R.I.P. DMX

That makes it even more incredible that nearly two years later, that whole bathtub scene would not only occur but lead to this shocking elopement. The thing is, Lucinda didn't always dislike John. Lucinda used to taunt John's former wife Karen about being ill-suited to be Mrs. Dr. John Dixon. It seemed to come from a place of jealousy, as if to say that Lucinda herself would have been better suited to be a doctor's wife and that Karen was not good enough for him, I think she as much as said so. This was in '84, early '85. So there was some sort if attraction/revulsion element at work, seemingly from the beginning. The thing that is most unfortunate about what soaps have become over time is that there no longer seems to room for complexity in how characters are written or how they interact. Everything now is so obvious.

Watching November 1, 1985 episode and there is a scene between John and Lucinda, where John makes a wisecrack about Lucinda's bathtub. I wonder if this scene was a consideration for the infamous bathtub sequence almost two years later? If it was, that would involve some memory, especially considering all the story that happened in those two years. It's just one of those minor details that one wouldn't expect to play in such a major way so far down the road. That's one of the things I find fascinating (from a technical perspective) about the writing during this period. Little scenes that appear to be about something completely different, but when you go back, you see seeds being planted, whereas, in real time, as you watch, you would never figure this out.

Years ago when #Brexit looked like a fait accompli, I wondered aloud (i.e. posted here) how this could adversely affect the situation between Ireland and Northern Ireland, speculating that Brexit could heighten tensions, and eventually lead to riots, that I hoped wouldn't be a new "Troubles". I still hope things won't get that far as The Troubles, but unfortunately, I was right in the other regard, with obvious tensions spilling into riots.

ICYMI:

When I saw FAA at the Nadal Academy with Toni Nadal in the frame, I knew something could emerge out of that. By the way, FAA has been to the Nadal Academy to train in the past.