DramatistDreamer

Ooh, it's been awhile since I procured a script for a television show, lol. I used to get scripts in the regular when I was in graduate school when I took a sitcom writing course. I have a small library of film scripts though.

As someone who grew up on Y&R but no longer watches, part of me thinks that maybe I have no right to answer this question, but I did see Burton's first run on Y&R and honestly, I wouldn't be interested in a Dylan return, the character had become dead weight by the time of Burton's exit. An initial return might give Nikki something to do initially, but with JG's writing, that would last all of a week. Paul's no longer on the canvas, Sharon has Rey, who is basically a Dylan replacement. The Chance aspect has effectively taken the place of Dylan's disappearance. Also, if he is not vaccinated, what's the point? Y&R probably has more elder actors on the show than GH. Why put them at risk for a minor character who wasn't even known to the show's longtime fans until a few years ago? Not worth the trouble, imo.

"...long defined the state", you mean the country, right? Where has Politico been?

Unless the WHO and the CDC is putting people in front of a Congressional committee for hours on end, asking them to "name names" of the suspected unvaccinated, I think the analogy to McCarthyism is a poor one. I spent time reading about writers and artist who actually suffered under the blacklists, many had to move to Mexico and Europe just to make a living. Having conservatives in Congress dragging someone before a committee, badgering them to name other people who may or may not have a political affiliation is different from a private company that sets it's own policies. Also, Communism may have been seen as a scourge but it wasn't a highly transmissible, deadly disease that could kill within days. If anything, at least tuberculosis and the scare it produced in the late 19th, early 20th century might have made a more apt analogy.

No, just lonely (from being isolated on that ranch in New Mexico) and stressed out. Of course, Meg was willing to do whatever it took to "alleviate" Dusty's stress, especially if it meant driving a permanent wedge between Dusty and Lily. It's odd, considering the tight bond Lisa had with Kim and Bob that she wouldn't have that with Chris, especially since Lisa was known for easily bonding with the young adults in town. It's sad when history is forgotten. It's what I appreciate when seeing that 1986 episode where Bob throws in that barb about Lisa taking motherhood so casually and Bob's contrite demeanor once he sees how wounded Lisa is by his words. That history was deftly inserted in that scene, just for a moment. One of the things I appreciated about ATWT the most when it was really good were those subtleties.

@Soapsuds mentioned Dylan Bruce who played Chris Hughes in the "Where Are They Now?" thread, which reminded me of a question that came to mind yesterday, with all this talk of Eileen Fulton and Lisa: Was Lisa active in Chris's life when he became an adult? I know that she was his godmother. As many of you may know, my viewing became sparse by the late 90s (and ultimately, dropped off in subsequent years afterward), so I really don't remember Lisa having a very close relationship with Chris, but perhaps someone else paid more attention during that final stretch of the series.

Speaking of Chris Hughes, I had a question but I'd better reserve that for the ATWT thread, I think.

I mean, if she trusts the writers to handle the topic with grace, anything is possible given enough time, I guess.

Would she be okay with that though? It could easily end up being exploitative, especially since it just happened.

Wow, I would love to hear the backstory behind all this! If there were still a SoapNet, surely a documentary would have been done on this.

I'm seeing the dismal turnout in some of these local races and it becomes obvious why in certain races, the incumbents kept their positions. There were some genuine gains for Democratic candidates of color, in particular. Having friends in Boston, MA and having travelled there frequently and having experienced some of the Boston-style racism up close, it really is something for my mind to get around the fact that Boston now has a Taiwanese American mayor. The racists won't disappear (it is Boston, after all) but hopefully she can get as much of her agenda accomplished as possible- she will have to, or they will come for her in full force.

And now Janet is trending in the Entertainment category. What is going on? I mentioned both upthread!

Whew, Britney Spears basically told her mom to go f*ck herself, as Britney stated that it was her mom's idea to do the conservatorship since she doesn't believe her father smart enough to come up with such an idea.😵💥

I was talking about ATWT specifically, and using music rights issues as the primary reason for not being able to show episodes, streaming or otherwise. Years ago, SoapClassics sold episodes of ATWT on DVD. So they obviously got around the music issue by using alternative music. The reason why it didn't continue was because they didn't extend licensing to the distributor. My contention was that music rights was not the primary reason why we no longer get to see episodes of vintage ATWT episodes. There is nuance that is missing but it is not all about music rights. Unlike B&B, ATWT was being fully digitized by the SoapClassic people. B&B is simply putting out their analog episodes. This is especially evident when you look at the screen ratio, as it is not formatted to today's LCD type screens. The number of people who had been complaining about B&B's screen ratio without realizing that, in order to fit today's screens they would have to go through the process of digitizing episodes like ATWT did with their collections. It's not all down to music rights, that's what I have been contending. If B&B had been digitizing episodes, instead of throwing them out there on analog, as they've been doing, perhaps it would have been a lot trickier for them to do as well, but wisely, they just threw the episodes out there, as is. I think putting the issue down to music rights, and music rights alone is an oversimplification if the issue.

OMG, if this is true.

It seems cruel to keep 17 cats in a studio apartment in NYC, but maybe it's just me.

Aww at Venus and Serena getting their own emojis. The Beyhive is starting to get on my nerves though,lol.

ICYMI, Tonga recorded it's first ever case of COVID-19, sadly.

Whitney Houston, for reasons that seem inexplicable, is trending. She was mentioned upthread in my post, lol. It's a crying shame that so many key episodes are missing from YouTube. Every single episode from 1986-1987 should be up there, at the very least. It's a damned shame that they're not.

I mean, I already did my civic duty and voted. What others do (or don't) on this day, I have no control over. No use in me obsessing about it.

Eric Adams defeating Curtis Sliwa is not a difficult prediction to make. NYC is overwhelmingly Democratic and Sliwa is a kook who offered nothing on his platform but bizarre campaign ads. I predicted he'd win before anyone even voted during the Democratic primary. Not to sound rude or dismissive, I'm just not in the mood for further predictions, as I feel like it's become a kind of game, and this is real life.

Too bad P&G just doesn't care about these shows, not the fans who supported their products and their programming for half a century. I have been watching The Bold and The Beautiful, From The Beginning and they basically proved what I have been saying for quite some time now: music rights are not the issue as to why we're not seeing classic episodes from ATWT's available catalog( '1979-), nor have they ever been. B&B streamed (which I had been suggesting ATWT do, rather than selling DVDs, which could easily run afoul of copyright laws) episodes, which includes highly popular songs from Janet Jackson and, wait for it... Whitney Houston! So guess what, it is possible, as I have said, more than a few times. As long as I'm going out on a limb, my theory is that previous episodes of ATWT that have gotten pulled from YouTube were more likely due to other so-called "fans" of the soap, who are carrying out their petty grudges with other fan accounts on that platform as they believe they own these shows because they posted first and want all the views and clicks reserved for their own channel(s). I don't understand this either, since the only entity who actually has intellectual property rights to these episodes clearly could care less. But go awff. Some fans indeed deserve our gratitude, while others, I suspect may be the reason why we are not seeing even more episodes up on YouTube.

People carping about music rights being the reason why soap production companies are not streaming these classic soaps are listening to whatever excuses they are being fed. Seeing B&B From The Beginning episodes using songs by Janet and Whitney proves that those that care about making their episodes available, will find a way to do so, it's simpler than most believe. The rest who don't, simply don't care. That's it.

Got a break and decided to watch a few episodes and hoo-man, all that build up about how Ridge would react when he found out about Caroline's rape and when the moment came, Ron flopped it! Those weird visual effects, which, I get it...in the absence of decent acting, tptb felt compelled to do something, but those visual effects just came off as odd and loopy- it actually undermined the gravitas of the moment, almost as badly as Moss' acting choices. Also, seeing those scenes between Katie, Rocco, Donna and Mark at the Dance Factory and they played Janet Jackson and Whitney Houston, one after another, proves what I have been saying all along-- streaming allows for the use of popular music, as long as copies not being being sold commercially. Whatever else is being said about music rights being used as an excuse not to stream old episodes of soaps is bullsh*t. Just say you don't care about soaps and go. It's why, for years now, I have been saying that it makes more sense to stream, rather than sell DVDs of classic soaps. The issue is lack of interest, rather than music rights.