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And of course Mary's two failed variety shows, airing not long after the other, both featuring Michael Keaton. Keaton also had two short-lived sitcoms in 1979 and 1982. All four of these shows aired on CBS. Once Night Shift became a hit I envision whoever was pushing him at CBS simultaneously feeling proud and pissed as hell. I watched the three episodes of her first variety show earlier this year and it's a very odd experience. I'm not sure if they are on Youtube or not. A year or two before she had also done a very odd special, in parts a late '60s hangover, the finished product being the result of unhappy network changes. Among other things I have no idea being her idea or their idea is hippie chick Mary dancing to a fiddle, Mary as a German Axis dominatrix, Mary gussied up as a Follies lady to struggle with "I'm Still Here," and the Manhattan Transfer leading us through Hell, Henry Kissinger, and a nuclear holocaust. Mary's Incredible Dream (1976 )

GUIDING LIGHT-- A Terrible Thing to Waste, part 10

Donna had a very rocky history. She first arrived on the show in the mid '70s as a teen prostitute. I think she was beaten by her pimp. This is where she met and fell in love with Chuck. McTavish was writing for AMC in 1993.

I'd forgotten he was on CSI (then again half of Hollywood were/are - is that still on?). I might also count Woody Harrelson, if True Detective counts (much of a crackpot as he is, he seems to know it's smart to leave that role at one season only). We could count Kirstie Alley on Veronica's Closet, although I don't know if the show was ever actually well-liked.

Someone else can go into better detail but she did genuinely love Palmer, even as his real love was his ex-wife, Daisy. After she and her ex-husband and great love Chuck had sex while stuck in an avalanche (I hate when soaps do that), it was all downhill. They also had a baby, who died in a fire in her dressing room just for an added morbid twist.

Thanks @Maxim . That's an odd scene in that it feels more like a fantasy for Max than real life. We do get various sides of Luna, including stronger sides, in the years to come, but I think she and Max always seemed like a reach (and I think in the long run they would have become tired of each other).

She's played this tune for decades. I think the line is that for the six months before Maureen died, she made viewers care about her, and that was her mistake. That's very dubious, as I cared about Maureen before this incredible six-month period, but it tells you her view of the audience (and apparently of Ellen Parker).

Mary Tyler Moore and Valerie Harper can be co-queens of this thread.

Does Patty Weaver still sing?

Thanks. Kudos for remembering all that. I was either not watching or watching and just not caring.

When he hosted SNL in 1982, they had a running gag of him trying to impersonate Burt Reynolds and how he wasn't famous in his own right. I thought, "Well, he's famous enough for you to ask him to host..."

It must have been right around that period when he died, maybe a little after. So many people came and went. I am trying to remember if she was the one in the episode where Courtney was subject to a car bomb or whatever went on. That was later in 1993.

Didn't they say Craig drove her off the road deliberately? And doesn't she end up in a farmer's market later on or something? I don't know...

I wonder how much is down to her not being a Kobe creation, although she was written out when Long was still there. Trish not being a character who was prone to punching, slapping, and whoring around probably hurt her the most. Rebecca Hollen was very well suited to GL so the show lost something by not giving her more of a spotlight. P&G moved her onto AW for about a year, but that part never went anywhere.

Thanks @SoapDope78 I had no idea it lasted THAT long. Some ask why Jay Z doesn't do this or that in a similar long-running suit he's had. I guess can see why.

Ursula returns repeatedly. I think she only stops appearing because Jill was hired on AMC. Her last may be a Rogue's Gallery jailbreak, but I can't remember. Here she is in one of her return scenes. Christine Cromwell, Viki's fake daughter, was told that homeless people exist even in Paul Rauch's Llanview, and decides to go to the local homeless encampment to take photos. I find it very patronizing, to be honest, and I guess Ursula did too, as she goes on about her "first amendment rights" and gives Christine a beatdown! Ursula was before her time. Today she'd be in Congress. The woman who played headcase Marsha Talbot on ATWT a few years earlier has a turn as one of the "good" homeless people, whose only request is to fix her hair before Christine exploits...er...photographs her. OLTL-Pt1 Ursula Decides To Stay In Llanview & Injures Christine Cromwell 1988

Why did Chase look so overzealously happy when he told Alexis he has proof about the false alibi? Creepy as hell. If Willow ever decided to revive the cult, I really think he'd kill somebody for her.

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I remember him for a moving performance in a strong Cold Case episode about gay cops who were lovers in the late '60s. That's the first time I ever heard "My Back Pages," as it was used for the last scene, which really got me at the time. The last place I saw him was in one of Cinemax's very last softcore shows, Chemistry, where he was the father of the male lead and all his scenes were on a houseboat. Sally Kellerman was also there. I'm not entirely sure what went on with him after MC to help his career decline. When I used to read some of the old TV gossip magazines some from the early '70s had messy articles about him dealing with a paternity claim or something along those lines (IIRC he was vindicated).

Thanks! I long ago lost what I used to gif or take a lot of screencaps.

It's perfect. If I knew how to do gifs now I might have tried myself. It reminds me of after the Angela/Deveny plotline on B&B, Susan Flannery saying for years "rolled all the way down [some avenue]" if she wanted to describe a bad storyline. You can just say "rolled all the way out of a lighthouse."

I will laugh if the letter is magically near intact. That's Andrea's Tina in a nutshell (although Andrea had started toning down her work in that last year) - constant drama and insanity, but somehow you always want to see more and always care. Sorry, you have probably already seen this a few times, but this is one of the moments I tend to think of first with Andrea's Tina and her constant misadventures. (the part at about 2 minutes and 40 seconds usually gives me a guilty laugh) One Life To Live- Tina & Ursula Go Out The Window 1988 - YouTube

Thanks again @Maxim . The drama in her kissing the envelope before she throws it into the fire. Hopefully we won't get any scenes of Clint fishing it out of the fireplace. My memory is terrible so maybe I knew and forgot again but I did not remember a coda of Clint apologizing to Billy for his behavior. Thank you so much for telling me. By this point the impact was somewhat lost with Billy barely appearing, but I'm still glad they had that moment of forgiveness and healing, as they didn't need to - many soaps wouldn't have bothered.

Thanks so much @slick jones Not sure if he fully counts or not but Carl Ciarfalio did have roles on at least two soaps (DAYS and Falcon Crest). Carl Ciarfalio Dead: Stuntman & Actor With Hundred Of Film & TV Credits Was 72 IMDbCarl Ciarfalio | Stunts, Actor, Second Unit Director or A...Known for: Casino, The Fantastic Four, Out for Justice