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The end of Alice, with Linda Lavin blaming the show's end on timeslot changes (love you, Linda, but that show was lucky to last as long as it did).

Crazy Like a Fox review

It's a very odd way of doing so - "your old love has become a threat" is unnerving.

When the show briefly tried to bring that back in 2002, it mostly made me feel sad. I'd say Michelle was like their mother, but even Maeve six feet under probably had more presence than NSA did.

Nola and Bea did, but I was thinking more of his rule about waiting six months to write anyone out.

I tend to agree. He may have waited six months or whatever the rule is when he was at GL, but he had no problem dumping people quickly at ATWT. Hell, he not only dumped Maggie, he never, ever mentioned her again, IIRC.

Marland's last few years at ATWT were incredibly dark, so I can see where Lemay is coming from.

The only compelling election story I remember on a soap is Frank Ryan on RH. Maybe fans back in the day loved Luke's mayoral run. Has anything with Eden worked? I think that's why we are where are now with her.

I totally forgot Veronica Cartwright was on GH. They did a lot with Jeff Kober...although none of that was good. I would say this would be a good way to wrap up the Faison story, but even if Nathan isn't around long, Britt and Obrecht probably aren't going. (unless they fire Kelly this time - even she must know she can't quit again) Thanks. I haven't watched all of Fargo in a long time - sometimes I forget how brilliantly tense that film is. I had no idea Stormare looked so much like Ryan Gosling.

I think the wheel-spinning element is what annoys me. I don't love seeing Tracy degraded by her family or having to apologize, but the writing was at least somewhat sympathetic to her and Jane and Erika did well in their final scenes. I just wish they'd done more with the potential. And you're right, Tracy probably would have respected Martin's move once upon a time - he's just so damn annoying. I think there is more potential than ever for an AJ return, but if that isn't happening, I wish they'd brought in another woman on the canvas who could be in her twenties or early thirties - maybe following in the footsteps of what Monica was when she first arrived. I'd like to see Keesha or a daughter for Keesha too, unlikely as that is.

If anyone has access to the episode it was August 24, 2023.

I was not watching at this time. I can't see them together, but it would have been more interesting than Josh and Cassie.

And Rauch was still producer at this time!

Brandon Claybon Reveals the Soap Role That Almost Changed His Career - Parade Before landing his breakout role as Martin Richardson, Claybon revealed he was up for a series regular part on fellow CBS soap The Young and the Restless. Claybon explained that his potential storyline would have paired him opposite Mishael Morgan’s character, Hilary Curtis. “I was supposed to play her love interest, but something happened, she died, and I think the baby died too in a car accident,” he recalled. “My role went up in thin air after that.”

The bit I've seen of Borgeson seems very generic TV wife/mother, nothing that works for Alice. The reason Courtney worked well as Alice is she had a certain grit to offset any ingenue writing. There's no depth to her. Runyeon seems to be the same. I'll be honest - for many years I thought this Sally went on to play the daughter on Gimme a Break. She's made in a lab for TV casting. Neither have the qualities of the earlier Matthews actresses. I suppose this started with some of the Marianne and Alice recasts in the '70s and just with Rauch's increasingly uneven choices.

Thanks for replying. I've only seen bits of the show, so I appreciate the extra info.

RIP Pauline Collins. What did any fans here think of the spinoff she had (that would have gotten a second series if not for the strike)?

Thank you so much @slick jones . I'm surprised Amy is back on daytime. I thought I saw mention but it felt so random.

I think so, yes. The Rex retcon was garbage, as anything with "Cartini" by that stage. And it made Clint look monstrous as IIRC he had known all of this while being extremely reckless and behaving dangerously toward Rex and his own grandchild. The show passed this off as saying he was "just like Asa." [!@#$%^&*] that [!@#$%^&*]. Didn't John rape Donna, but they claimed she wanted it? Ugh.

Viki's split personalities started before he died, but that was definitely a factor in her ongoing struggles. The show made so many retcons with Victor, I'm not surprised Malone thought he could get away with one more, but there really was no story to be told. Victor was a very old, very ill man. Then he died again. What was the point? I still have a lot of issues with the retcons of Victor sexually abusing Viki and Viki killing Victor. I think it was all just too much, it basically assigned Viki's entire formative years to the pits of hell, and it helped lay a path to the Heart of a Lord fiasco. This was also a blueprint for the Tess retcons - one of the most disgusting stories ever on OLTL. Thanks. So many failures with Griffith. I remember Eddie Drueding writing about the horrible story that seemed to be done out of nowhere be done to make Maggie the heavy. By the summer of 1995, Maggie began to get very frustrated with Tomas, who was trying to hold down a job and schoolwork and who couldn't devote as much time to her as she wanted. Her attention strayed in the direction of Nick Hudson, a young punk with a chip on his shoulder the size of Maggie's ego. She found him terribly exciting and rubbed herself up against him at every opportunity. Yet she still wanted Tomas as her boyfriend. Maggie began exhibiting schizophrenic tendencies as she schemed to get *both* Nick and Tomas, at the same time. When they found out, they dumped her unceremoniously.