On 8/20/2025 at 7:26 PM, Taoboi said:

Same. And bonus...rival family. But again, I fully am expecting Kat/Chels's Dante is either going to be the one and only Dante or somehow related to THE Dante. 

You know what you right. I had mentioned in a different thread that Beyond the Gates needs a rival family. So Green/Thomas family would check both of those boxes.

11 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

I need to spotlight this trinity of lead actresses that BTG has with TT, DD, and KM. They have such a solid foundation for a thrilling soap opera. The variety of personalities is unprecedented for black characters on one show. That includes the entire canvas of women characters. My witches of eastwick...

I agree with all of this. I also want to add Trisha Grant and Ambyr Michelle as actresses that have definitely been handling business.

21 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

This is why pacing is so important because if you have multiple stories, you want to pace them differently so that there is always a climax, fall out, and build up going on the same time.

Exactly!!!

 

51 minutes ago, melanatedbtgfan said:

You know what you right. I had mentioned in a different thread that Beyond the Gates needs a rival family. So Green/Thomas family would check both of those boxes.

I agree with all of this. I also want to add Trisha Grant and Ambyr Michelle as actresses that have definitely been handling business.

TMG and Ambyr for me are the breakouts of the unknowns on the cast along with the actress that plays Kat.

Nu-Ted def has chemistry with Leslie. Old Ted you could feel how much he hated her and how much he loved Nicole. I could see Nicole eventually going back to Old Ted. Nu Ted and the writing with him not even fighting for Nicole, I don’t even want or can even see them as a couple.

26 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Nu-Ted def has chemistry with Leslie. Old Ted you could feel how much he hated her and how much he loved Nicole. I could see Nicole eventually going back to Old Ted. Nu Ted and the writing with him not even fighting for Nicole, I don’t even want or can even see them as a couple.

Old Ted had different chemistry with everyone. Heat with Nicole, fatherly bond with his kids, and then surprised me how scary he was with Leslie. Agree I originally thought he and Nicole would reunite but no more. 

29 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

Nu-Ted def has chemistry with Leslie. Old Ted you could feel how much he hated her and how much he loved Nicole. I could see Nicole eventually going back to Old Ted. Nu Ted and the writing with him not even fighting for Nicole, I don’t even want or can even see them as a couple.

Yeah, that's what I always said as well. re: Old Ted. The most SilkPress was getting from that Ted would be hate sex. They had chemistry that went that far.

 

NuTed, I just feel is going to wind up with SilkPress in a straight man/bad girl relationship at this point. Or...I used to say and still wouldn't be surprised if they go with a traditional triangle with Nicole, but they really haven't built up Ted/Nicole at all. Unless Carlton is going to be evil and Ted has to rescue Nicole...that's the only way I see them getting close to getting back together. 

1 hour ago, Taoboi said:

Yeah, that's what I always said as well. re: Old Ted. The most SilkPress was getting from that Ted would be hate sex. They had chemistry that went that far.

 

NuTed, I just feel is going to wind up with SilkPress in a straight man/bad girl relationship at this point. Or...I used to say and still wouldn't be surprised if they go with a traditional triangle with Nicole, but they really haven't built up Ted/Nicole at all. Unless Carlton is going to be evil and Ted has to rescue Nicole...that's the only way I see them getting close to getting back together. 

I see Carlton being somewhat bad. With Leslie pushing her way behind the gates she may connect with Carlton to help him scheme to keep a wedge between Ted and Nicole.

It makes me wonder if the alleged new hire - possibly

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Ted King?

is for Nicole. They'd be hot. But I also have my doubts they'd immediately jump to pairing one of the central female leads with

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a white guy tbh.

 

7 minutes ago, ReddFoxx said:

I see Carlton being somewhat bad. With Leslie pushing her way behind the gates she may connect with Carlton to help him scheme to keep a wedge between Ted and Nicole.

A scheme team. Uh oh now.

Isn't  

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19 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

A scheme team. Uh oh now.

I now need this!

I know

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Ted King has played Latinos. I'm not sure he is one. But fair enough.

 

16 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

@Aback I saw several comments suggesting that perhaps Peaches is faking her illness and trying to pull a con on Leslie once she gets the money. That could be interesting. Very valid point made about the sensitivity of the social issue on the show. 

I certainly understand that!🙂

Appreciate your thoughtful input - your perspective was both helpful and refreshing. Thank you.

 

14 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I appreciate what you've said here, and I admit that's probably because a majority of the bullet points I offer in a post are in the negative file. I don't tr_oll the show -- I like it way too much to do that -- but I'm honest with my takes. YMMV.

Yesterday, I was over the moon with the Anita/Leslie scenes, and I offered praise. The rest? A very mixed bag that included some awful acting and odd writing. I don't expect anyone else to agree with me; on the other hand, I'm not going to sing only the show's praises because some posters here love everything, or at least refuse to speak of anything that isn't working.

If you told me I could watch only 2 soaps, BTG would be one of them. It entertains me and fascinates me in ways the others do not. You shouldn't mistake my complaints as a call for cancellation or anything like that. I want it to be better, that's all.

And I appreciate both you guys @ranger1rg and @DemetriKane's contributions to the BTG discussion topics. Honesty and truth is something I cherish, especially when delivered with a sense of humor. ❤️

12 hours ago, Faulkner said:

The women are great, with only a couple exceptions we’ve all discussed (MG, JJ, RRM, Cady if we’re including recurring folks). The men, on average, don’t match up. Not even close. (Santa Barbara had a SUPERB male cast.) And the eye candy is much too subtle.

I agree. The men... with very few exceptions are really really not comparable to the women in terms of raw talent. It reminds me of Brad Bell's drivel-soap that has always been carried by the women. Always. And for now... BTG seems to repeat this pattern. Buuuut don't take it as a negative - if there is something that will make me stay on with the show... it will be these amazing actresses. I thought it would be the the writing, but... it needs a lot of work. 

4 hours ago, Gatecrashers said:

Isn't  

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Not at all. 😊

4 hours ago, ReddFoxx said:

I see Carlton being somewhat bad. With Leslie pushing her way behind the gates she may connect with Carlton to help him scheme to keep a wedge between Ted and Nicole.

I like that idea. True soapy drama 

I'm going to be a little bit more direct about Ms. Duckworth's explanation. There is something that's referred to as "walking and chewing gum at the same time." If you truly know what you're doing, then this would not be seen as a challenge, which begs the question: How much experience do these people have as writers? She talks about storyline beats? Well, they've missed a lot of those even with storylines moving like snails and flowing like molasses. Soooo......And I would've loved if she had mentioned, for example, putting a storyline and characters on the shelf in March, then returning to that storyline and characters in September. These storyline gaps feel unnecessary and doesn't help, and has played some part in viewer dissatisfaction.