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2 minutes ago, kalbir said:

@soapfan770 Hahaha, love it!

 

LOL it made the most sense to me!

For whatever reason, and I’m tagging  @YRfan23 @slick jones @Taoboi and @ranger1rg but I now get the sense that JG has been trying hard to emulate the Chuck Pratt era for the past few months now. Jordan & Ian redux was one thing but the SAW and the Restless story was something right out of Upchuck’s alley. Now this whole thing with Dumas feels like a repeat of the Paragon Project storyline all over again.

Yikes. I’m dreading to see what happens next. 

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Billy Flynn leaning on Josh Griffith's references to The Great Gatsby. 

Yeah comparing this to an acknowledged literary masterpiece is probably not the wisest move.

So basically Cane is a new character with an old name. So pointless.

If for whatever reason they decided Billy had to be Cane, he should have returned as a henchman for Aristotle and have Jermaine play the real deal than the other way around.

And can we address the continual issue that is Victor Newman and Y&R's steadfast refusal to accommodate the aging of the actor/character. Eric now delivers his lines a few words at a time while looking anywhere but at his scene partner.

'I believe I know...pause...the identity of the man...pause...who calls himself Aristotle Dumas...'

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And that would have worked Evvvvven better if right when Lily has been won over by the power and charm of Damian...she finds out that Cane works at Dumas. Damian...before when he was the head...was very plans within plans so Lily would wonder if he knew of her all along which could be a realistic plot since Lily was just coming off of that whole mess with Billy, Victor, and Nikki. If JG had to use BF as Cane at all. 

 

And for the record...I DO NOT want Cane with Giggly Heffa. But I don't want her with Nick, either tbf. 

19 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

LOL it made the most sense to me!

For whatever reason, and I’m tagging  @YRfan23 @slick jones @Taoboi and @ranger1rg but I now get the sense that JG has been trying hard to emulate the Chuck Pratt era for the past few months now. Jordan & Ian redux was one thing but the SAW and the Restless story was something right out of Upchuck’s alley. Now this whole thing with Dumas feels like a repeat of the Paragon Project storyline all over again.

Yikes. I’m dreading to see what happens next. 

I can see that. It is also when the writing really started to fall off the rails for the most part. And if I remember from that time, I said that it felt like JG saw what a success he had with the Damian storyline and how it was the only storyline moving (and had NO Newmans/Abbotts in it) so he HAD to think of something to keep the Newmans in focus. And we already know that JG loves the Abbotts though his ideas had slowly gotten lackluster since the Ashley's Alters storyline...though I did like Victor/Jack latest round. 

 

I feel that. I also feel my offramp coming up. 

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2 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I DO NOT want to see Cane sniffing ANYWHERE around Phyllis.

Isn't "new" Cane more the age of Daniel?  But Cane actually should be the age of SyPhyllis, Christine, Danny, and Nina.  Right??

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13 hours ago, Tisy-Lish said:

Cane actually should be the age of Phyllis, Christine, Danny, and Nina.  Right??

Yes, teen Nina and Christine fought over dating Phillip III, so he's in their agegroup. Then he got Nina pregnant and married her.  Then Phillip III "died" at age 19 when his son Phillip IV (Chance) was a baby.  But actually Phillip III hated his situation, so faked his death and was living in Australia, but nobody (not even the viewers) knew because he was dead-dead.  Then in a retcon, Phillip III was secretly alive, and  Cane came to Genoa City with Phillip III's identity, something that Phillip III chose to arrange.   So Cane is supposed to be the same age as Phillip III (Thom Bierdz).  Eventually when the identity switch was exposed, Phillip III came to town and said the switch was his idea, and that he'd faked his death because he was gay.

Edit to add: When Cane first came to Genoa City, he had a scene with Lily, in which he stated that he was 31 and she was 19, so he was too old to date her, it was stated clearly and specifically.

So DanielGoddard's Cane is supposed to be 12 years older than Lily, 
although Tom Beirdz' Phillip would have been 20 years older than Lily.

But now BillyFlynn's Cane and Lily are the same age.

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15 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I DO NOT want to see Cane sniffing ANYWHERE around Phyllis.

It'd be hilarious if that did happen since Cane was meant to be a love interest for Phyllis post-Amber, but the character's popularity with Nick kept it from happening, and plans [ultimately] shifted.

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Pff knowing JG I’m sure Cane will be sniffing Phyllis’ panties before we know it. Phyllis is still being written like a 20-30 something romantic lead on the show so it wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

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It always seems like world events that warrant a Special Reports always breakout between 12:30 and 4pm ET during soaps.

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15 minutes ago, Planet Soap said:

It always seems like world events that warrant a Special Reports always breakout between 12:30 and 4pm ET during soaps.


I was expecting this interruption - Not just a press conference but a war escalation.
international bombing attacks between various countries/regions currently, including new attempts at USA bases in the Middle East. 

(not discussing politics here, because there's a separate thread for politics)

Regardless of why/how, this is currently a live event, so there's going to be live reporting.

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18 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Billy Flynn leaning on Josh Griffith's references to The Great Gatsby. 

Yeah comparing this to an acknowledged literary masterpiece is probably not the wisest move.

Imagine having a take on The Great Gatsby and getting it wrong from the jump. Instead of introducing a man of mystery and intrigue, he brings back a guy with a ton of baggage.

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Why change Cane to an American when fans and characters knew him as an Australian? Why doesn’t anyone think that it’s pretending to be Cane? Cane was 53 when he last on so he would pushing 60 not around 40.

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If anyone missed Y&R today Monday June 23, due to news interruption,
you can find it online here:

Season 52, Episode 180 (Episode #13150)
Mon. June 23 U.S.A.  (Friday June 20 Canada)

CBS.com (listed as E52, E180)
https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/iiQzoMeyYayppXavkA6ZhJRrDNX7w2Hb/

paramountplus (listed as E52, E180)
https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/video/iiQzoMeyYayppXavkA6ZhJRrDNX7w2Hb/

Global-Canada (listed as June 20)
https://watch.globaltv.com/series/32666602/episode/GLOB0057135830000000/

TenPlay-Australia (listed as Ep. 13150)
https://10play.com.au/the-young-and-the-restless-fast-tracked/episodes/season-2025/episode-13150/tpv250618iyufe

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