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No she wasn't. Originally Tracy was a socialite friend of Iris from Manhattan. Tracy didn't even work, she (like Iris) was just a wealthy socialite. And certainly not a lounge singer. When Tracy returned to AW with Lynde in the role, Tracy seemed almost like a new character. And by the time she started dating Russ, any mention of her wealth stopped.

100 percent right! This is what P&G Studios can produce when they choose to do it.

Well, SPOILER WARNING for those who care ........ ........ on Y&R today, Victor said he got out of Fairmont Crest just before the tornado hit. And since on BTG, the tornado hit at the end of today's episode -- that must mean that Victor was already gone. Unless I missed something.

Yes. I think BTG gets so many things right, and the show is especially good at producing "events" -- which is amazing in the soap opera genre in 2026, when budgets continue to tighten. But often plots (or even individual episodes) of BTG are missing small details that would help the audience know what is going on. Today's episode was wonderful. My only two criticisms are 1.) Victor didn't get a send-off scene, and 2.) The tornado came way too quickly without enough foreshadowing -- especially after Martin announced the Tornado watch...then BAM!! Somebody in the writer's room doesn't know much about tornados. But otherwise, impressive episode.

I think it is strange that Victor didn't get a send-off scene before the tornado hit. It could have been extremely short -- maybe 30 seconds, with Vernon reminding Victor that the weather was getting threatening, and Victor replying that his pilot had just suggested they be on their way back to Wisconsin because of the approaching storm. Then a quick thank you and good-bye from Vernon and Martin, and Victor is out the door.

Since Victor's helicopter landed at the Country Club and the party was at the Country Club, why did Victor and Vernon get into the limousine? Where did they go?

Hmm. Brother and sister mob king-pins. I believe this is a first for daytime television. Seems a strange choice. Where is it all headed? Any speculation?

I'm not sure Erica was ever an alcoholic, but she did become a drug addict -- maybe in the late-1990s or 2000s. Pain killers, if I recall correctly. But certainly far far later than Phoebe's drinking problem. Perhaps if Nixon had remained head-writer at AW for a few more years, Liz might have eventually developed a drinking problem. I guess we will never know...

I don't know about the timing, but I'd estimate Phoebe became an alcoholic around 1978-79. No idea how old Nixon's daughter was at that time. But the daughter may have been too young to have triggered Phoebe's drinking problem. Who knows??

Comparing Nixon's writing for Liz with her writing for Phoebe -- Phoebe was like Liz on steroids. Everything about Phoebe was bigger and more over the top than Liz. Often to the point of being unbelievable. Liz was more grounded in reality, but I do see many similarities and parallels. Even similar plots. Not to mention, Phoebe was an alcoholic (Liz was not), which added a clear difference between the two characters.

I think that is likely correct. But I do not remember Liz while Irna Phillips was writing AW, so I'm only speculating. What do you think??

I agree for the most part. But Phoebe is the closest comparison I can think of. Both characters had that meddling tendency and would do anything (meaning come up with any scheme) to protect their sons (Linc Tyler and Bill Matthews) from any woman they did not approve of (Kitty and Kelly on AMC, and Missy on AW). And I'll agree that Lindley's Liz was not a humorous character, but there was occasionally some humor in the pomposity of her snobbishness. And that is a similarity to Phoebe.

Sooner or later, someone in charge will give a name to the town. Fairmont Crest must be within a municipality, because they have a police department. If the community was just out in the unincorporated suburbs, they would have sheriff's department, not a police department. On the other hand, a few months ago another posters said the police department and the hospital were in Washington DC. I don't think that is correct, because a police department would serve only within the city limits. The Washington DC police would not cross the state line and go into the Maryland suburbs to provide services. The only reason I think this is somewhat important is that it is occasionally awkward when a line in the script needs to use the location, but the script writers have to avoid saying it. If the scene is taking place within the gated community, then "Fairmont Crest" makes sense. But where is Orphie Jeans? Where is Uptown? Where is the hospital? Where is Bill's office? I doubt they are in Washington DC. I assume they are in a small town, a bedroom community very close to DC, but not within the DC city limits. As you said, the small city would likely have a generic name like Highland Park or Brentwood. They can't dance around this forever, just as General Hospital and The Doctors eventually chose to reveal the names of their locations. It will become more and more awkward to avoid it as time goes by.

Although I'm aware of Lemay's general dislike of Virginia Dwyer, I'm not familiar enough with AI to understand what you are instructing me to do. I know little about AI, and no idea how to opt out of Harding Lemay. I'm willing to learn...

Thanks for trying. I'm a little surprised, because Hugh Marlowe had been a fairly well known movie actor and his photos are all over the internet. Even photos of Virginia Dwyer are not difficult to find online. But again, I appreciate your effort. And by the way, can you share the updated rendering of Jacquie Courtney and George Reinholt? I am unable to find it here in the forum.

I wonder which Jim Matthews AI would choose for the doll...along with Mary of course.

Well, it's sad that they are handling it this way. But it is 2026, and the two shows are owned by different production companies, produced in studios nearly 2500 miles apart, and on different shooting schedules. But I remember in the early 1970s, Another World and Somerset had many crossovers. And they always wrote it tight -- meaning whatever happened in Somerset, it was the same day on Another World. And visa versa.

Sadly AI seems to be taking over social media, including the soap opera forums. This AI generated "doll" looks vaguely like Pat (Beverly Penberthy), but doesn't resemble Alice (Jacquie Courtney) at all.

Has anyone heard if the crossover will take place on both BTG and Y&R, or will it only happen on BTG? I have a feeling it might occur on only BTG, while it's business as usual on Y&R. But I'm only speculating. That might seem a little strange -- if all those characters are in Maryland for a few episodes on BTG, but on Y&R they are in Genoa City on the same day(s).

Have TPTB at BTG forgotten Pamela? If so, too bad they couldn't get Cady on contract.

Indeed. It was cringe, and certainly not a good fit for Bill Bell's masterpiece. Roger Howarth is a very good actor, but he seems to be prostituting himself recently. The poor guy must be desperate for a contract.

Is this bar set exactly the same as the bar in LA, or just similar? If it's exactly the same set, then this is ridiculous writing. Totally unbelievable.

Possibly, but Rod Arrants would have been difficult to replace -- and especially difficult when the Corringtons were no longer writing the show. Many of the characters created by the Corringtons had that back-story of Southern gothic stuff. And very few other writers in daytime would have understood how to continue that writing style. So with both a different actor and different head writers, I'm afraid most of Travis's identity would have been washed away by a recast. Just my opinion.

Was Robert Reed the final actor to play Lloyd? What year was Lloyd written off SFT permanently?

Near the beginning of today's special episode, did anyone else notice when Clifton Davis referred to Fairmont Crest as a town? I never thought Fairmont Crest was the name of the town -- I thought it was the name of the gated community, which was probably in the suburbs of an unnamed town/city in the greater DC area. Do you think Clifton Davis just misspoke? Or are tptb going to start promoting Fairmont Crest as the name of the entire town/city?