If the show ever chooses to show any flashbacks of major Ted scenes, the Ted/Eva, Ted/Kat, and Ted/Nicole scenes would need to be re-filmed with nuTed.

Since there have been hardly any Ted/Martin scenes with the CurrentTed, they have avoided the difficulty of doing recreated flashbacks with nuTed for scenes with Martin.  The only one would be Martin punching Ted after the anniversary reveal (unless there's something in the next few episodes).

I agree with other posters that the fact that we barely saw CurrentTed and Martin interact, makes it less impactful to viewers to see Martin's outrage at the reveal. 

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13 hours ago, Gatecrashers said:

This is a effin shame. Eff Trump and eff the bastards that enable him.

I'm hoping that it doesn't happen. If the show keeps putting out good performance and story it will be hard to shut it out. Daphnee, Trisha, Ambyr and Colby are earning nominations without question.

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12 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I think it would have worked better if Anita had have been alone after everyone left and started tinkling leading into the song, with Vernon coming in observing and then joining her for  a close moment.

Everyone standing around felt a little too much.

And that closing effect with the two blackscreens meeting was unnecessary. Just a fade out would have been enough.

That would have saved the Anita singing segment -- having her by herself, singing quietly and reflectively. Belting it out like she was in church did not work.

The black screens fade at the end was a mistake. BTG insists on being different with these fades for the sake of being different, and it's not working.

 

3 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:

I think Brandon has gotten better in normal day to day scenes, but he’s very over the top when the character is meant to be angry or agitated. I did laugh when she started yelling at Leslie and then when he started to throw all those damn books, lol. He needs an acting coach to work out some of these kinks. 

I thought all of that was just fine. Worked for me.

 

1 hour ago, GLATWT88 said:

Bingo! I thought the exact same thing. Martin's anger feels so out of place, because we've hardly seen him interact with his parents. Vernon and him have more of a father/son relationship and we've seen their dynamic more fully play out. While obviously Ted and Marton are father and son, it felt a bit empty because we haven't really seen them bond or truly connect in any scenes.

I'm going to disagree with this. Martin hasn't had many scenes with his parents, but he's been around family A LOT -- and that's what matters. We also know Martin is someone with a hair trigger response. He can be very emotional when discussing an issue before getting to the logic and reason of it all.

 

I never had much of a problem with Brandon Claybon's performance as Martin. He has gotten much better though. While I enjoy his confrontational scenes, I must say his lighter, and carefree scenes from Thursday's episode are the ones that stood out most in the last 3 days (to me).

 

2 hours ago, Melroser said:

I hope for a multi-year renewal, too! This is the only show I've been excited to see the next episode in forever. Considering their demos are quite decent. the initial episodes showed there is still an interest in daytime, and it has helped to boost the rest of the soap line up at times, it should be around for a while. 

I agree with all of this!

I'd be shocked if it doesn't get a multi-year renewal. And I'll be deeply amused by the inevitable reaction to follow on here if/when it does!

 

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5 hours ago, Faulkner said:

That’s been my main issue with his response. It didn’t feel that earned by what came before. Definitely needed to see more of the Richardsons as a full family unit prior to all of this.

Honestly, the scene with Lesile "fangirling" over Martin and Vernon at Orphey Gene's should have been Martin and Ted. Imagine Ted and Martin having a father/son moment and Leslie just shows up and does her whole cuckoo fangirl act with Martin as Ted is in panic. Not only does the moment hint back at how Ted used to bring Martin to the diner to sneak around with his mistress, but it would have also been a good moment for Ted to come clean with Martin after all those years. How much more impactful would Martin's reaction have been to find out at the anniversary dinner that his father lied to him once again. 

Ambyr Michelle is at the point where she could read the phone book, and I would be entertained. I love the way she says "Mama."

And now that Bill has been brought into this, we should have seen Ted interact with Bill previously, not only about Leslie but what sort of relationship they had as outsiders to the Dupree clan.

And also looking at how they negotiate that relationship when divorce comes into play.

I love a smart literary reference in my soap dialogue, but I just laughed at that *picks up book* Martin: "Ralph Ellison--The Invisible Man."  Smitty: "I see you"

They also apparently have copies of The Glory and the Dream (which I haven't read) and Paris in the Terror which I did read parts of in high school actually.  But I wanted them to show them putting back on the shelf at least a couple of fun, trashy novels.  C'mon!  (or maybe at least something gay if they're gonna focus on titles--Baldwin's Giovanni's Room?)

And yes, it was me who said there should  be more singing and I loved the final montage, but I kinda wish they had just had her singing solo instead of the family all gathered around the piano which... I'm sorry, I don't think in one of the niece's shoes I woulda stuck around for at that time.

(And wow--locking Eve out?  )

26 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Ambyr Michelle is at the point where she could read the phone book, and I would be entertained. I love the way she says "Mama."

YES

Another pointless nitpick--weird barndoor closing end fade.

5 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

I'm going to disagree with this. Martin hasn't had many scenes with his parents, but he's been around family A LOT -- and that's what matters. We also know Martin is someone with a hair trigger response. He can be very emotional when discussing an issue before getting to the logic and reason of it all.

And to add on to this...SilkPress has been poking him with popshots (brownie boy) since the reveal. And at least it has been established that Martin does not at all like to be messed with. And now he's been messed with since he was a kid with the affair reveal. That...plus the consistent verbal poking by SilkPress over the last few episodes...does not make his anger out of place at all. 

7 hours ago, Melroser said:

I hope for a multi-year renewal, too! This is the only show I've been excited to see the next episode in forever. Considering their demos are quite decent. the initial episodes showed there is still an interest in daytime, and it has helped to boost the rest of the soap line up at times, it should be around for a while. 

I hope so as well. Even though the other CBS soaps still have a LOOOT of work to do, BTG's very presence is getting people to at least check out the other soaps in the lineup, keeping the numbers good. Right now...outside of DAYS...I can forget about any of the other soaps' episodes, it gets deleted off my system, and I feel...nothing. I can get a rewatch in on BTG and I get annoyed and/or angry at my system. lol. 

26 minutes ago, EricMontreal22 said:

I love a smart literary reference in my soap dialogue, but I just laughed at that *picks up book* Martin: "Ralph Ellison--The Invisible Man."  Smitty: "I see you"

Thanks for posting that. I didn't know about "Invisible Man" by Ralph Ellison. I knew only "The Invisible Man" by H.G. Wells.   I just spent some time learning about Ellison's novel.  Now I have a lot of work to do, to learn more, to read more.

Edited May 7May 7 by janea4old

1 hour ago, GLATWT88 said:

Honestly, the scene with Lesile "fangirling" over Martin and Vernon at Orphey Gene's should have been Martin and Ted. Imagine Ted and Martin having a father/son moment and Leslie just shows up and does her whole cuckoo fangirl act with Martin as Ted is in panic. Not only does the moment hint back at how Ted used to bring Martin to the diner to sneak around with his mistress, but it would have also been a good moment for Ted to come clean with Martin after all those years. How much more impactful would Martin's reaction have been to find out at the anniversary dinner that his father lied to him once again. 

that wouldnt work bc Ted thought she left town weeks ago. The entire reveal wouldnt have gone down the way it did had she revealed herself the day before. That would have been too on the nose to have Leslie hint at that with Ted there. It worked out far better the way they did it manig it seem like some random scene with us only realizing how calculated it was afterwards.

Edited May 7May 7 by Cheap21

10 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

that wouldnt work bc Ted thought she left town weeks ago. The entire reveal wouldnt have gone down the way it did had she revealed herself the day before. That would have been too on the nose to have Leslie hint at that with Ted there. It worked out far better the way they did it manig it seem like some random scene with us only realizing how calculated it was afterwards.

Sure, if you play it out in that exact way it wouldn't work, but there are so many alternatives. I still intended the brownie reveal to be at the anniversay dinner. The difference would be that Leslie would taunt Ted in front of Martin as Ted knew exactly what she was doing. Ted wouldn't come clean to Martin and just act surprised by this unhinged fan. He now knows that Lesile has not left town and would attempt to track her down with no luck as we know Leslie is two steps ahead. Ted knowing that Leslie hasn't left town would have really put him in a dire predicament to say something or maintain the lie. He knows Leslie is unpredictable, so he might try and push Nicole to cancel this dinner even moreso. It would have definitely made the tension between Martin/Nicole/Ted much stronger. Of course this is just and opinion and nitpicking. I thought what transpired was pretty good. 

Edited May 7May 7 by GLATWT88