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On 8/14/2023 at 10:51 AM, DramatistDreamer said:

Don’t forget Mia and Juliet. Think about what all these wasted characters have in common. MM was strategic enough to parlay her role into an Emmy award.

I really enojyed Mia, too. I thought she had the potential to be the next Jill. But, then the whole family got shipped off except Rey.

10 hours ago, Forever8 said:

Something tells me Audra created an identity to be suitable for corporate America. I could see her thinking perhaps her real surname is "too ethnic," and she was having a hard time getting hired until she decided to change it, and that's when Tucker came through. Maybe she tried to send money home to her working-class family but feeling she had turned her back on not only them but their culture, they told her to stop sending it if it meant she continued with this facade.

I wouldn't mind if eventually they brought on a younger brother or sister and perhaps a salt of the earth mother who has no problem reminding Audra where she comes from.

I've wondered if Audra created a persona, too. The actress could easily play Latina. There's sooo much potential with this character. I just hope they don't squander it.

8 hours ago, Liberty City said:

I miss Mia. I genuinely do. She was a spitfire.

 

I love that scene! I wish we had a rough around the edges character on the show like that right now.

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So Phyllis as per usual gets off with a pat on the wrist. We’ve had to watch so many other characters go to prison and she’s going to be doing community service we never see.

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I haven’t seen Ashley in many relationships since I started watching Y&R, but I have to say TSJ is like her perfect acting partner, their chemistry is truly off the charts. I genuinely don’t remember anything about her chemistry with Stephen Nichols as Tucker.

Ashley and Diane’s hug at the wedding was hilarious.

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On 8/14/2023 at 7:22 PM, kalbir said:

Yay!

Amen!!! 
 

On the subject of Audra believe it or not next month is her one year anniversary on the show so she’s basically surpassed both Mia and Juliet yet Audra’s backstory still remains shrouded in mystery.

Worse is I still can’t imagine Rory Gibson’s dopey depressing Noah was ever supposed to have been involved with Audra let alone she was pregnant. 

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1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

Amen!!! 
 

On the subject of Audra believe it or not next month is her one year anniversary on the show so she’s basically surpassed both Mia and Juliet yet Audra’s backstory still remains shrouded in mystery.

Worse is I still can’t imagine Rory Gibson’s dopey depressing Noah was ever supposed to have been involved with Audra let alone she was pregnant. 

The show just can't seem to figure out a way to write Noah that works. He's been recast so many times at this point. I was disappointed that they attached Allie to him so quickly and then dumped that character as well.

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1 hour ago, 1974mdp said:

The show just can't seem to figure out a way to write Noah that works. He's been recast so many times at this point. I was disappointed that they attached Allie to him so quickly and then dumped that character as well.

People have complained repeatedly about the casting of the character but at a certain point people should have been questioning the depiction of the character through the writing, direction, etc., to me, those are the common factors. Noah has been written and depicted very poorly— he hasn’t been written reasonably well since the character was a teenager.

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Noah's problem is that his parents are written as young people dealing with young people problems.
The character had no room to breathe with Nick and Sharon getting the kind of stories he should be getting.  

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11 minutes ago, Sapounopera said:

Noah's problem is that his parents are written as young people dealing with young people problems.
The character had no room to breathe with Nick and Sharon getting the kind of stories he should be getting.  

Never thought of it this way but you are right. Sharon and Nicholas play too young. Sharon is currently involved/semi-involved with Chance while Nicholas is with Sally. In a perfect world, the triangle would have been with Noah, Sally and Chance since the two men are essentially in the same age group as Liam and Wyatt on The Bold and the Beautiful, which are characters Sally played against when the character was on that show. Meanwhile, Sharon and Nicholas would play more into the Bill/Ridge/Brooke/Taylor group, even though for the most part they are a few years younger than that group.

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Y&R’s glut of worn-out vets they refuse to either sideline or give age-appropriate stories, plus the severe budget issues, seems like a bad combo for any evolution.

MTS could easily be on recurring with how they’ve been using Nikki the past few years, even if she’s been slightly more prominent in the Audra/Nate stuff. I wonder if EB would go apesh!t if they took her off contract. She’s one of the show’s marquee stars, but that’s certainly not how they’re using her.

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2 hours ago, Errol said:

Never thought of it this way but you are right. Sharon and Nicholas play too young. Sharon is currently involved/semi-involved with Chance while Nicholas is with Sally. In a perfect world, the triangle would have been with Noah, Sally and Chance since the two men are essentially in the same age group as Liam and Wyatt on The Bold and the Beautiful, which are characters Sally played against when the character was on that show. Meanwhile, Sharon and Nicholas would play more into the Bill/Ridge/Brooke/Taylor group, even though for the most part they are a few years younger than that group.

You're right. Noah should be the one dating Sally....not his dad. Between Nick and Adam getting to date all the much younger women, poor Noah doesn't stand a chance of a story.

None of the Newman grandchildren have worked because their parents are still being played as 30-somethings. When was there last a mention of Reed? Victoria has three kids, but you get no sense of her as a mother.

Faith went nowhere, too.

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1 hour ago, lucaslesann23 said:
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Seems a waste to not have Paul around if this is the case. There’s a lot of potential with Heather given her history with Adam, a possible triangle with Daniel/Lily, the possibility of Sheila/Daisy popping up to reclaim Lucy, etc.

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47 minutes ago, 1974mdp said:

None of the Newman grandchildren have worked because their parents are still being played as 30-somethings. When was there last a mention of Reed? Victoria has three kids, but you get no sense of her as a mother.

Victoria is so stale as a character and really digging into her experience as a mother with three kids would offer at least something different. (Beyond using the younger two as chess pieces in her co-parenting situation with Billy, which I’m glad is no longer a thing.) The scope of the show feels too limited for it, though.

AH is 50, yet Y&R continues to play her character as the tormented ingenue desperately seeking the approval of her father, who himself needs to step aside and let a new generation flourish. Y&R is desperate and EB/Victor’s notoriety as the badass transcends the show. No one else comes close to his cachet. I’m glad EB is happy and healthy, but Victor is a sitcom character with a catchphrase at this point. After all these years, we’re still stuck playing out the same stories because they won’t allow the Newmans to evolve past this caricature of a ruthless patriarch.

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