22 minutes ago, Dion said:

There was a period (pun not intended!) when the much of the show revolved around the fate of Lulu's eggs. And the woman who carried Rocco was none other than Britt!

Basically Lulu found out she couldn't carry a child to term, so Maxie offered to be her surrogate mother. Maxie got pregnant with Lulu and Dante's embryo, then promptly miscarried (though it probably would have been more realistic if they had said the implantation had failed). Maxie then jumped into bed with Spinelli and got pregnant again, but didn't have the heart to tell Lulu and Dante that she was not pregnant with their child so kept up the ruse that she was still acting as their surrogate.

While this was all going on, Lulu was kidnapped by Helena and had some of her eggs harvested, this eventually led to Charlotte's conception and birth via Claudette.

Maxie eventually gave birth to Georgie and everyone found out the truth. A custody battle followed between Dante and Lulu, Maxie and Spinelli (separately) with the result being Spinelli ending up with custody and Maxie being forbidden to see Georgie for a time.

Meanwhile Britt (who had been Maxie's OB/GYN and had known the truth about Georgie all along) was claiming she was pregnant with Patrick's baby and then switched to claiming that Brad was the father after it came out that Patrick wasn't.  Eventually it was revealed that her mother had convinced her to take one of Dante and Lulu's embryos and implant it in herself to trap Patrick. I think it was Liz who eventually exposed this and Dante and Lulu got custody of their son Rocco.

 

I'm so glad I didn't watch for several years. Thank you!

Britt and Rocco was bad enough but the whole Charlotte thing with Valentin has always been disgusting. That little girl is obnoxious and Valentin is such a creep. I'd de-Spencer her, send her away and murder him in a minute.

I'd forgotten the entire stupid "Claudette" plotline was just an excuse to get Bree Williamson on the show for about six minutes as idiot block of wood Nathan's Canadian ex-girlfriend, which fell apart quickly. It seemed like FV and Passanante badly wanted to make her stick, but she was gone remarkably fast (and IIRC killed offscreen).

Edited January 21, 20232 yr by Vee

I see bits and pieces of GH, but you guys give such gruesome descriptions that remind me of how nothing ever changes (especially Cam likely going under the hearse just as Zander did to prop the pets of the moment). It's just plain sad.

1 hour ago, Darn said:

I'm so glad I didn't watch for several years. Thank you!

You're welcome!

Oh I forgot to mention that Obrecht had Dante and Lulu's last embryo that she held hostage - hmm maybe not the best word, perhaps held as leverage is better - to get Dante and Lulu to drop charges against her and Britt. I think Dante and Lulu eventually found out the embryo wasn't viable just before Charlotte was revealed to be Lulu and Valentin's, making Lulu all the more determined to get custody of Charlotte.

8 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

 

  

At this point, Cam could go on to do terrible things to them and I’d support him 110%. Joss deserves it for being such a selfish whore 

8 hours ago, Vee said:

It's also exactly what happened! It's not like Joss committed some unspeakable sin either. However boring I find her and Dex, she is very young and she was consumed with guilt and broke up with her boyfriend immediately after. 

Idk.

The way I see it, if she had really felt guilty, she would’ve stopped herself, or at least tried to stop before she even had sex with Dex. But she didn’t. She was laughing and smiling while having sex. It was like Cam didn’t even exist. And that’s why I hate it (and Joss) so much now. Not the affair, just the way it was written. Sort of like Nancy/Craig/Leo or Ben/Ciara/Theo on Days

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3 hours ago, Vee said:

Britt and Rocco was bad enough but the whole Charlotte thing with Valentin has always been disgusting. That little girl is obnoxious and Valentin is such a creep. I'd de-Spencer her, send her away and murder him in a minute.

I'd forgotten the entire stupid "Claudette" plotline was just an excuse to get Bree Williamson on the show for about six minutes as idiot block of wood Nathan's Canadian ex-girlfriend, which fell apart quickly. It seemed like FV and Passanante badly wanted to make her stick, but she was gone remarkably fast (and IIRC killed offscreen).

And wasn't Claudette also connected to bland Griffin as well? 

3 hours ago, Dion said:

You're welcome!

Oh I forgot to mention that Obrecht had Dante and Lulu's last embryo that she held hostage - hmm maybe not the best word, perhaps held as leverage is better - to get Dante and Lulu to drop charges against her and Britt. I think Dante and Lulu eventually found out the embryo wasn't viable just before Charlotte was revealed to be Lulu and Valentin's, making Lulu all the more determined to get custody of Charlotte.

I'm grateful I didn't have to watch Emme Rylan try to emote through all this nonsense!

1 hour ago, AbcNbc247 said:

The way I see it, if she had really felt guilty, she would’ve stopped herself, or at least tried to stop before she even had sex with Dex. But she didn’t. She was laughing and smiling while having sex. It was like Cam didn’t even exist. And that’s why I hate it (and Joss) so much now. Not the affair, just the way it was written. 

It's definitely a combination of the writing and Eden McCoy inability to play anything other than self-righteous. I'd love it if the show acknowledged that Joss got all of Carly's worst personality traits. She's vicious and narcissistic and barges into every scene like a bulldog. 

Of course this show had Joss defending what Carly did before even talking to her.

It's funny that Roger Howarth and Michael Easton joined this show as Todd and John from OLTL, who despite how you might feel about either of them had distinct personalities. Then they became Franco and *checks notes* Silas, two also maybe interesting people idk they had stuff to do. Now they're both stuck playing two of the blandest, nondescript alleged romantic leads I've ever seen. 

I can't imagine a single person caring about Austin or Austin and Ava (please save her from this pairing). Or anyone looking forward to watching Hamilton Finn (this dumbass name I swear) pine after Elizabeth while they watch his lispy daughter (who the fück is this?).

Frank, listen, I know you've known these men for 20+ years and they have families and mortgages but my god LET IT GO MAN. They are DONE. There is no more there there.

12 minutes ago, Darn said:

Then they became Franco and *checks notes* Silas, two also maybe interesting people idk

Let's not say things we can't take back!

IMO Frank believes losing Roger Howarth so early in his run as EP at OLTL (according to Roger himself on a Slate podcast a year or two ago, he left in '03 because of an alleged storyline Michael Malone planned to do upon his return - probably the he said/she said rape story TSJ later played with Blair - and defected to ATWT within 3-4 months of Frank taking over) is one of the great losses of his career and he's clearly never gotten over it. Now, he compensates by just never letting him go.

12 minutes ago, Darn said:

Or anyone looking forward to watching Hamilton Finn (this dumbass name I swear) pine after Elizabeth while they watch his lispy daughter (who the fück is this?).

Oh, that little girl is even worse and more inexplicable than Charlotte. It's his magic daughter with Rebecca Budig. Who cares?? But people act like "Violet" is a fan favorite. I don't give a fùck!

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3 hours ago, Darn said:

t's funny that Roger Howarth and Michael Easton joined this show as Todd and John from OLTL, who despite how you might feel about either of them had distinct personalities. Then they became Franco and *checks notes* Silas, two also maybe interesting people idk they had stuff to do. Now they're both stuck playing two of the blandest, nondescript alleged romantic leads I've ever seen. 

I can't imagine a single person caring about Austin or Austin and Ava (please save her from this pairing). Or anyone looking forward to watching Hamilton Finn (this dumbass name I swear) pine after Elizabeth while they watch his lispy daughter (who the fück is this?).

Frank, listen, I know you've known these men for 20+ years and they have families and mortgages but my god LET IT GO MAN. They are DONE. There is no more there there.

THIS.

 

And to think I gave him a chance when I came back to watching GH, but I'm so over Finn. The way he treats Liz sealed it for me. 

 

 

12 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

 

  

*gasps*

 

I know they didn't!!!

Rewatching a bunch of Jonathan Jackson’s late Guza era return as Lucky, and reading all these comments about RC’s Lulu stories, ick.  At least GH as it stands now, while bland, is nowhere near as misogynistic as it was during JFP/Guza or Ron Carlivati.  These women are not all doormats, or constant victims, or throwing themselves off buildings over a man.  I appreciate that even if I FF anything involving Sonny.

4 hours ago, Darn said:

It's definitely a combination of the writing and Eden McCoy inability to play anything other than self-righteous. I'd love it if the show acknowledged that Joss got all of Carly's worst personality traits. She's vicious and narcissistic and barges into every scene like a bulldog. 

You would think that, as long as they've been shoving her down our throats, they would know to write to what ever strengths that she has and stay away from the type of writing that makes her look like such an awful person. 

It killed Joss for me. I hate her now as much as I hate Austin and Cody 😂

Edited January 21, 20232 yr by AbcNbc247

I've said it before BTW but I'll say it again: Chad Brannon looked hot as hell when he showed up as Ghost Zander for Cam a while back. Whatever his stupid recent IRL politics I don't care; over half of daytime is right-wing fundies, most of them are wise enough to keep it out of our face or off the set. I would chalk Zander up to Witness Protection and bring him back to tempt Liz and rep for his boy in a hot minute. It cannot be worse than some of her pairings over the last decade.

2 hours ago, Vee said:

I've said it before BTW but I'll say it again: Chad Brannon looked hot as hell when he showed up as Ghost Zander for Cam a while back. Whatever his stupid recent IRL politics I don't care; over half of daytime is right-wing fundies, most of them are wise enough to keep it out of our face or off the set. I would chalk Zander up to Witness Protection and bring him back to tempt Liz and rep for his boy in a hot minute. It cannot be worse than some of her pairings over the last decade.

Maybe it might make Rebecca Herbst look less like she can't wait to clock out and go home to her family.

1 hour ago, Darn said:

Maybe it might make Rebecca Herbst look less like she can't wait to clock out and go home to her family.

Damn.  It does look that way sometimes though!

I would love to have Zander with his FOINE self...and like MG over on Y&R...he has aged like fine, oh so fine wine. Early apologies to his students.

 

 

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