Members janea4old Posted December 20, 2022 Members Share Posted December 20, 2022 I love Jason Thompson but the character of Billy really is played out. I sort of think that Billy should be sent out of town to a mental health recovery program, and NOT with Chelsea. He's done recovery for his gambling addiction but he's never really dealt with his mental health issues. He has done things like having a breakdown and getting a friend's help, or whining on a podcast, but he's never really healed. *However* I don't think Billy wants to change. Until he *wants* to change, any mental health program would be useless. He needs to leave the canvas. His character just isn't workable anymore. I mean the son of Jill and John should be a vital character, but he's useless. Jason Thompson tries, but Griffith's writing has ruined the character. Josh Griffith got obsessed with the darkness he wrote into Billy Miller's Billy Abbott. and JG still wants that character. JG left after writing (or during writing, or just before writing?) Delia's death. JG keeps wanting to tell the story that he wanted to tell before he left back then. I think Billy needs to leave town. And then return after a new writer has settled in who can fix the character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Planet Soap Posted December 20, 2022 Members Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) Y&R has been beyond saving since 2006, moreso since 2013. Every EP and head writer since Jill Farren Phelps has failed to bring the show back to some semblace of bring interesting. LML and MAB's tenures are beginning to look better compared to more recent marterial. That's a strong statement considering how damaging those periods were to the show. Edited December 20, 2022 by ironlion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted December 20, 2022 Members Share Posted December 20, 2022 The Newman kids are the first who could really use a break. Their stories are beyond tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted December 20, 2022 Members Share Posted December 20, 2022 This is the first sign of hope for Y&R in years. I don't think they'll keep Josh Griffith running the show alone so at the very least we will get a new EP, but I also think we may get a new HW finally. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted December 20, 2022 Members Share Posted December 20, 2022 Maybe Josh is just interim EP till they find someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taoboi Posted December 20, 2022 Members Share Posted December 20, 2022 THIS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Broderick Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 At this point, I doubt it matters much who's writing or who's producing. As someone pointed out way above, it's tough to write for a show that's got no sets. You can't "show" anything. Characters are stuck sitting around in restaurants talking about stuff that happened off-camera. Until they find a way to get a few sets, they've got a bleak future in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 Agree. It is monotonous to watch. Y&R dug a hole for themselves by relying for years on the same characters as front burner and not properly nurturing the next generation. Premature SORASING (Abby, Noah,Charlie/Mattie/Fen etc) poor recasts (Billy, Mac) questionable story choices(basically making everyone a criminal) have brought us to today where the show is forced to use the same characters over and over and is scared/unable to rid themselves of dead wood and introduce interesting new characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Broderick Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 Yep, there's never a "fresh" new character who catches our attention, in the manner a new character, properly integrated onto the canvas, did when writers were willing to shake up the status quo. At one point, Nikki, Jack, Ashley, Traci, Lauren were all new young characters who made a strong enough impression to promote allegiance to them. About the only one I can think of in recent years is Hillary Curtis, but they couldn't afford her because of their overreliance on the old high-priced "sacred cows", so their solution was to kill her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 Y&R needs a Robert Calhoun type of producer who can use a set for multiple groups of characters within an episode. They can sit in different tables and have their own discussions. Is it that hard? It would also help make Genoa City feel like a community, not that Bill Bell was ever interested in something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Melroser Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 If there's never going to be anyone at Crimson Lights, they could at least turn that into a story for Sharon. CL is losing money and going into bankruptcy. What is Sharon going to do if she loses her sole purpose these days? Lean on Nick. Wax nostalgic about the past (use flashbacks). Have Genoa City residents hear of her plight and then start hanging out in CL to support Sharon (and use the set). Audra hanging around in the background with Sharon and Chance was just creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members janea4old Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) Crimson Lights shouldn't be Sharon's sole purpose. Sharon has a degree in psychology and is a licensed therapist. She should have her own psychology practice! If they don't have money for a special set, they could use a generic office/cubicle set or a hospital area set for various characters and storylines. Sharon could work at a clinic. Edited December 21, 2022 by janea4old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DramatistDreamer Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 One of the aspects about As The World Turns that I absolutely loved was the continuous camera technique, where the cameras would roam from table to table at a place like The Mona Lisa, making the viewer privy to everyone’s conversations, as if we were eavesdropping. And it was done in almost one continuous complete take. Genius. I am not sure that anyone filming today’s daytime soaps still possesses that level of skill to film multiple characters in different parts of a room without cuts or edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sapounopera Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 I loved it! He did the same thing on GL with places like the Country Club. This would do wonders for Crimson Lights and Society or offices with people coming and going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paul Raven Posted December 21, 2022 Members Share Posted December 21, 2022 That probably took rehearsal of both camera operators and cast and there is not the time or budget these days. It's pretty much limited movement all round so they can get it done quickly in one take. There are barely even any interesting camera angles eg shooting from a different vantage point or with objects in foreground etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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