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On 10/2/2021 at 11:19 PM, j swift said:

Just for discussion sake, and not to defend or compare offensive behaviors, but to those who object to Ben ever being written as a romantic hero, should the same rules apply to Sami, who drugged Austin in order to have sex with him without his consent (or at least make others think they had non-consensual intercourse)?

In other words, does the classic soap tale of people being redeemed by the power of love no longer work for today's generation of soap fans?

Sami actually has plenty of detractors in town and is allowed to be called on her sh.it.

Ben literally murdered 4 people on screen, and if you dare mention it, you’re screamed at by Ciara or Marlena(the grandma of one of the victims) will tell you until she’s blue in the face that he’s cured. The show even went so far as to make one of his victims, his new best friend. It is god awful writing. The power of love is totally different than offensive propping of a serial killer.

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2 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Watching Friday episode... Drake still can't act...poor thing!

It's been 35 years, did you think that would change lol?  He has some charm about him and I actually enjoy his ridiculous reactions to things lol.   I'd rather watch him than some of the other lifeless performances.

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On 10/2/2021 at 10:00 PM, j swift said:

I feel it necessary to clarify that I am not pushing a false comparison of Sami and Ben.  I am simply asking if it is a generation divide that younger viewers are no longer swayed by the soapiness of characters being redeemed by love.

This is an excellent question to raise. The old "redeemed by love" argument has never gone all that far with me, though I do understand (from many real-life examples) that women have traditionally believed this, thus the use of this on the soaps.

However, I think that some viewers may also see "Ben as hero" as correcting the mistakes of previous writers. The previous writers messed up by killing off a character? Bring 'em back from the dead! Not that DOOL would actually do this, of course! (Wink.) The previous writers messed up by making Ben a serial killer? Say it was a tumor and bring back the Ben the viewers wanted all along.

 

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Sami was understood and at times sympathized with, but the audience was invited to love to hate her in the '90s. They rooted for her getting her just desserts from Carrie. This has never happened with the allegedly rehabilitated Ben. That's the difference.

It is extremely easy to redeem Ben, even now, by blaming a frame-up job in the world of DAYS. Ron Carlivati doesn't do it because he bullishly believes he was right to do similar stories like the rapemance at OLTL, NuFranco at GH, etc. and that it doesn't matter what a character does so long as they or the actor are edgy and fun to write for. But characters and stories do have limits - many soap scribes have learned that the hard way. Even Ron did, which led us to the Two Todds.

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

It's been 35 years, did you think that would change lol?  He has some charm about him and I actually enjoy his ridiculous reactions to things lol.   I'd rather watch him than some of the other lifeless performances.

tbh I've never disliked Drake. He sold the hell out of his story in the '80s and '90s and he has a certain skill and charm that is often underestimated. He's not Olivier but people have rarely given him enough credit. He is a singular personality, yes, but he's DAYS.

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I really hate this Nicole stuff. Not her with EJ - I'm loving that. But my god, enough of her looking at that stupid bear. Is this really the best we can do with Ari Zucker? She and DF must get these scripts and just laugh. Why do they have entire scenes revolving around a teddy? Nicole isn't ready to move on from... Rafe. HUH? It doesn't even make sense. She has a little schoolgirl crush on the guy her friend is dating, so now she's not sure if she can move on with EJ? This would be so much more palatable if Nicole was conflicted about moving on from Eric (you know, her HUSBAND). Nicole is literally in the middle of getting divorced from the love of her life, yet he barely gets mentioned and Rafe is the reason she's struggling to move on? Please! It's so insulting as an Ericole fan. Not to mention, I'm yet to see a single Nicole fan who is into her with Rafe. I see people who want her with EJ, a recast Eric, or even Brady, but never Rafe. Honestly, I just want EJ to give her some good dick so she can forget about that loser. I'd literally rather see her with Ben than Rafe. He's so fricken boring. #FreeNicole

I adore EJ's disdain for Duke. EJ throwing him in the trash had me dying.

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But of course Nicole pulled him out. MAKE IT STOP.

EJ: "I'vE rEmOvEd EvErY tRaCe oF SaMi" he says while wearing his wedding ring. Nicole looking miserable and thinking about Rafe while on a date with Agron from Spartacus isn't even remotely believable. Dear lawd! Make it stop!

Marlena is trying to frame Doug for whacking Julie and wants him committed to Bayview. This is awesome and Bill Hayes is still slaying. Love these characters driving story.

Paulina and Lani talking about Paris is zzzzZzzzz.

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7 minutes ago, AlexElizabeth said:

DF is f-cking hot, so of course the show decides to give him the slicked back hair and makes him shave his face. It kills me! He also wears way too much clothing.

Slicked back hair or not, he's still better than Rafe

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4 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Today was boring. Everything just went around in circles. Chanel and Abe's scenes were nice.

Today's show was ok. I ff all the Rafe scenes. Why didn't Doug just tell everyone that Marlena was possessed? I was hoping someone would hit Julie again with the tray.

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Yeah... slicked back hair is not a good thing lol 

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

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Well... this sure makes me surprised at Ron Carlivati. When has a man who looks like that not been seen like that on a Ron-written soap?

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1 minute ago, AlexElizabeth said:

Why can't we have nice things on DAYS

Only on this show would they be like, "Let's hire the guy from Spartacus but put him in 17 layers of clothes and slick back his hair."

I'm surprised Carlivati hasn't had him shirtless. I'm shocked actually.

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Yeah... slicked back hair is not a good thing lol 

Well... this sure makes me surprised at Ron Carlivati. When has a man who looks like that not been seen like that on a Ron-written soap?

I like DF cup in the second pic.

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