4 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Yeah I'm already reading comments elsewhere that Meghan ISOLATED Harry from his family. Seriously? They did that all on their own

I'm reading that too where I posted my views on it. People are also saying to give Meghan the Oscar already😂.

Uh, I did in fact watch the interview before I posted a word in this thread. I cannot and would not presume to speak for anybody else.

15 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

Yeah Vee I'm already reading comments elsewhere that Meghan ISOLATED Harry from his family. Seriously? They did that all on their own

 

People are so predictable. That was the one comment I was absolutely sure would pop up.   

Some of you are wilding out in this thread. Seriously.

Like, I said, I speak to my own experience, no one else's. I spent months studying in London when I was younger, so I have first-hand experience there too.

 

I have no delusions about what America is. Also, I have no delusions about England is. Both are f*ucking racist countries.

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2 hours ago, I Am A Swede said:

Harry and Meghan are telling their story, how they experienced things. That doesn't necessarily mean that what they're saying is completely true. It's their truth, told from their point of view.

There are always two sides to every story, and we only get one side in this interview.

 

I'm not going to deny the possible existence of racism within the Royal family, because I don't know. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it exists. And Meghan obviously did face racism from the press, which is unforgivable, no question about that.

But at the same time I'm not going to take Harry's and Meghan's words as the absolute truth. I'm too cynical to believe that they did this interview without an agenda.

 

Yet, if William and/or Kate were to come out publicly against "the Firm," you, and others like you, would believe them automatically, without ever questioning whether there was another side to their story.  And that is part of Harry and Meghan's overall point: that the media and the public (whose opinions have been colored largely by the media) afford William, Kate and everyone else within the BRF a luxury (the benefit of the doubt) that they refuse to afford Harry and Meghan; and that instead of defending the two from the terrible tabloids, the royals, for whatever reason, would rather hang them out to dry. 

 

It doesn't matter whether Meghan is, in fact, a money-grubbing b***h.  I'm sure there are nefarious folks a-plenty in that family.  Yet, the family seems more willing to protect the other ne'er-do-wells than they are willing to protect Meghan...and now, more than ever, it's painfully obvious why.

 

5 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Something that some will never understand: As a black person, as a black woman, neither money not social standing will ever protect you from racism.

 

Exactly.

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11 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

 

Yet, if William and/or Kate were to come out publicly against "the Firm," you, and others like you, would believe them automatically, without ever questioning whether there was another side to their story.  And that is part of Harry and Meghan's overall point: that the media and the public (whose opinions have been colored largely by the media) afford William, Kate and everyone else within the BRF a luxury (the benefit of the doubt) that they refuse to afford Harry and Meghan; and that instead of defending the two from the terrible tabloids, the royals, for whatever reason, would rather hang them out to dry. 

 

It doesn't matter whether Meghan is, in fact, a money-grubbing b***h.  I'm sure there are nefarious folks a-plenty in that family.  Yet, the family seems more willing to protect the other ne'er-do-wells than they are willing to protect Meghan...and now, more than ever, it's painfully obvious why.

 

 

Exactly.

It obvious the Royal family didn't like Meghan from the beginning. After their marriage the Royal family made Meghan life a living hell. Yes, the Royal family are racists. And I think it was William and Charles who had that talk with Harry. 

 

But as Blanche Deveraux would say...Meghan is a gold digging hussy! 

Btw..I miss fun loving club hopping pole dancing birthday suit Harry. He looked so sad in the interview.

I think it would be sadder to see someone who is pushing 40 hanging out at clubs and pole dancing.

The Nazi costume alone was a cry for help.

4 hours ago, JaneAusten said:

I have read people justifying the hits on Markle by saying "She didn't grow up black". Basically because she had a slightly more affluent upbringing, she doesn't get to pull out the race card.

 

I've heard that said about other African-Americans in the past: so-and-so "didn't grow up black."  Which means...what, exactly?  They weren't raised in "da 'hood"?  As if that's the only way you can/should raise a black child.

 

I grew up in the suburbs and attended predominantly white public schools.  Does that mean I've never encountered racism, or that I'm not qualified to offer an opinion on the subject?

 

I'm not directing these questions to you, by the way, @JaneAusten.  I'm just upset, because this strikes at the heart of an issue that I've had to carry with me since childhood: the fact that some will automatically hate me because I'm black, while others will dismiss me and/or my perspective because, to them, I'm not the "right kind of black."

 

The reality is that those Netflix and Spotify deals will likely net double what Harry's inheritance from his mother gave him.

If Meghan is a gold-diggers, then she's a damn good one because she's bringing up gold Harry didn't even have before he met her.

 

Shiiiiit, can I get that type of gold-digger too?!

4 hours ago, JaneAusten said:

And by the way when people started bringing up Andrew, people tried to use Oprah as a shield claiming she had no room to ask questions about him because she enabled Weinstein.  It was just an attack on yet another black woman, trying to diminish her voice too.

 

Exactly.  Look at when Diane Sawyer interviewed Whitney Houston, or Britney Spears, or Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie Presley.  Sure, everyone's questioning how Diane handled Britney NOW, but what about when that interview first aired?  Did anyone else in the media take Diane to task for how she handled those interviews and others?  But, because she was white, she always got a pass (or she did until the Britney documentary premiered, lol).

My mother attended university with a white woman who told her that she had "a white education" because my mother was quite good in the class they were in together. Even a lot of black people take this view. If anything racism is worse for black people who live in white, middle to upper income areas than it is for those in low income, heavily black areas.

7 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Having been raised by a black woman, I find it incredulous that she wouldn't have at least some knowledge of what racism looks like.

 

Agree.  If her mother (from Crenshaw) never educated her about racism, then she failed in her duty as the mother of a biracial child.  People like Bill Maher and Megyn Kelly believe you shouldn't burden your children with race when they're still so young, but they don't understand that being black or brown in America doesn't leave any other choice.

Edited March 9, 20214 yr by Khan

4 hours ago, kalbir said:

Maybe it's me but I've always gotten the impression that British society on the whole is very class-based, which is rather sad in this day and age.

 

It is in a lot of ways.

 

As I guess one of the few (maybe the only one?) posting here who technically lives under the monarchy, all I'm going to add to this conversation is that a lot people here and in our press seem to be on the royals' side this time. I'm surprised tbh with the support I'm seeing, not so much from the more traditional side, but also from people who normally don’t care for the monarchy. I'd say its about half and half and that surprises me. 

 

I think this will ultimately only end up being damaging in the US. I think a lot people in the rest of the world will see it as being rude or impolite, especially towards the Queen and the family (and that's even people that maybe are on Meghan and Harry's side).

3 hours ago, JaneAusten said:

Actually no there are not always two sides to every story. That mindset is the reason the US still sits on a possible move into fascism is because our own media and press corp treat people who spread outright lies about election results for example as the other side of an issue when it's an outright lie.

 

Yes.  Thank you.