Plus, turning Summer into Phyllis Jr (by way of insecurity and irrationality) isn’t the way to go, especially when you then introduce someone else who has a little of the younger Phyllis (in both scheming, ambition and looks) to be her ‘rival’/prop.

Edited December 28, 20204 yr by LondonScribe

26 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

I have to say I expected more from Sally/Kay. They wasted the return of Scott and Dina and most of the other stories were meh but at least they didn't trash the characters.

Mal however did more damage.

Josh bringing back Adam was bad enough but then turning back the clock to his earlier incarnation has been horrible, 

Having Kevin and Chloe back and giving them nothing to do adds insult to injury.

Really its time for a change (and hopefully some improvements)

I did like Sally/Kay instantly restoring the show with sense again after Pratt and JFP. But I was not keen on Nikki's arc of playing the piano for the concerto to be on my screen. It felt like something out of a novel that gets turn into a movie starring Meryl Steep or Glenn Close. 

 

Scott's arc was terrible and the actors was wrong for the role. I got tired of him mansplaining things to characters. 

 

Ravi should've had more scenes with the younger crowd i.e. Noah, Mariah, etc., instead of being Phyllis and Ashley most of the time to give him balance on the canvas. 

 

Kevin and Chloe could leave for Silicon Valley tomorrow and I won't be sad. And that's bad because Chloe is Katherine's goddaughter who is the daughter of the maid, but grew up among wealth and had a daughter with an Abbott. 

 

I'm ready for a new Head Writer who at least get 80% of their ideas on screen. 

 

 

Didn't Mal also kill Hilary off and called it a "gift" to the viewers? I'm not sure where this nostalgia for Mal is coming from. Personally, I could see there being a greater likelihood that MY and SS would have clashed, repeatedly. And for any creative project to work, there must be some synergy present. A constant battle of wills won't work.

15 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Didn't Mal also kill Hilary off and called it a "gift" to the viewers? I'm not sure where this nostalgia for Mal is coming from. Personally, I could see there being a greater likelihood that MY and SS would have clashed, repeatedly. And for any creative project to work, there must be some synergy present. A constant battle of wills won't work.

This was one of the most egregious acts, sacrificing Lily in the process. I know the latter (or rather Cristel Khalil) isn’t the most popular, but it was destructive, counter-productive writing in my opinion. 
 

I agree that Mal Young would have clashed with Sally Sussman Morina, as I subsequently found out that he has clashed with or significantly disagreed with most people he worked with in the U.K. I happened to read an old  interview with former Eastenders Executive Producer Matthew Robinson, who made it clear he didn’t exactly get on with Mal Young, who had hired him. 
 

In reality, it is likely that they did clash and disagree on the vision of the show, and Mal Young is historically used to telling people what to do and getting his way, hence his strokes pulled to remove Sussman.

 

Edited December 28, 20204 yr by LondonScribe

I wonder what’s going to happen with Nikki. She’s been pretty well marginalized on this show for a while now. They seem to have no interest in making her the Grande Dame.

4 hours ago, Faulkner said:

I wonder what’s going to happen with Nikki. She’s been pretty well marginalized on this show for a while now. They seem to have no interest in making her the Grande Dame.

Well,   it has been a while since she accidentally knocked someone off.... <cough> Chelsea<cough>   O_O  

 

Nice to hear Dicholas tell Victoria how rotten she's become.

 

Oh goody,  the Red Menace and the Chipmunk, together again..... this should be 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sally/Jack *could* work as John/Jill redux, but this show has zero patience to lay the (potentially years of) groundwork for a story with such prominent “ew” factor, especially in 2020. Sally just arrived in Genoa City a minute ago, and they’re already heavily alluding to a pairing.

Maybe it’s me, but it seems like Elena and Nate are being pushed out. 

6 hours ago, Soap-princess said:

Maybe it’s me, but it seems like Elena and Nate are being pushed out. 

I don’t think it’s just you.

If I’m being generous, I’d say they are being back-burned, but with Amanda’s insta-family potentially emerging from the fog, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Elena and Nate quietly leave town.

Edited December 30, 20204 yr by LondonScribe

Arturo! I always enjoyed him. I wish they had kept him and Mia around. She was a feisty troublemaker. 
I’m watching more episodes now and feel like it’s better now than it was when they first returned.  Not crazy about Adam and Chelsea. Is Chelsea going to pass away? They keep mentioning her surgery as routine. And the go to is always Chelsea and Adam leaving GC. Which they rarely do unless there’s a change of Adam actors. 
Had to chuckle at Rey’s mom calling Sharon her future daughter in law, she looks so young! 

Why does Phyllis have to end her sentences in a whisper for emphasis? I wish they’d put a mask on her so we wouldn’t have to hear her.

😂Phyllis waving her man hands at Adam calling Chelsea a consultation prize! What exactly does Phyllis think she is? Nick see sawed between her and Sharon for years. 

Why is Phyllis on Adam’s case? She’s lucky Nicks with her right now and giving her money for that ugly hotel. She’s the last one that should pass judgement on Adam. She’s a bigger pyscho than he is. Plus isn’t she like 30 years older than him? Leave him alone!

How can Sharon not be sneaking peaks at Nick? Other than that beard he is like a fine wine, getting better with age.

Edited December 30, 20204 yr by Chatty Cakes

24 minutes ago, Chatty Cakes said:

How can Sharon not be sneaking peaks at Nick? Other than that beard he is like a fine wine, getting better with age.

No way Josh would give Shick fans any hope for a reunion. 

7 minutes ago, Soap-princess said:

No way Josh would give Shick fans any hope for a reunion. 

I’ve been a Shick fan since early on but I don’t know if I’m ready for them to reunite right now. I feel like Nick needs some time to cleanse after Phyllis.

2 hours ago, Chatty Cakes said:

I’ve been a Shick fan since early on but I don’t know if I’m ready for them to reunite right now. I feel like Nick needs some time to cleanse after Phyllis.

Oh definitely. I don’t care if they are not together right now as long as they are when the lights are officially turned off on the show.