9 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

I honestly can't seem them ever letting VR return unless the show were to be cancelled 

I can and I say that KSJ's passing may have YR thinking how do we get VR back

I mean they invited her back for the tribute episode which shocked us all (in a good way). 

 

To be fair, Rowell did try to sue them. As much as I want her back, I'm willing to bet the corporate heads at Sony and CBS won't get over that quickly. Though she seems ready to put aside those differences for the betterment of the show. 

40 minutes ago, Vee said:

I'll believe Y&R is seriously reevaluating their black canvas when a) MM returns as Hillary, not some dumb doppelganger, 2) Ana has a storyline, and 3) Victoria Rowell gets an offer.

 

Yep.  Same here.  And even then, I'll still have some doubts.

1 hour ago, Vee said:

I'll believe Y&R is seriously reevaluating their black canvas when a) MM returns as Hillary, not some dumb doppelganger, 2) Ana has a storyline, and 3) Victoria Rowell gets an offer.

 

+1

Didnt Maria Bell actually want Dru/VR back but SONY said no?

7 hours ago, Vee said:

lol, Stafford came back because FV at GH did his usual re-up game and gave her a take it or leave it offer she didn't like. No other reason. Give me a break with this "she did it for Kristoff" shít. There is no basis for that. She was always gonna come back someday when GH dried up.

 

I'll believe Y&R is seriously reevaluating their black canvas when a) MM returns as Hillary, not some dumb doppelganger, 2) Ana has a storyline, and 3) Victoria Rowell gets an offer.

 

"she did it for Kristoff"

 

 

get a grip. No one said that. And you're speculating just like the rest of us so relax a bit. LOL

Edited June 21, 20196 yr by dio

3 hours ago, John said:

Didnt Maria Bell actually want Dru/VR back but SONY said no?

 

Yes. It was also documented in her lawsuit that Brad Bell wanted to bring her to B&B as Dru or a new character and was then told they wouldn't allow it. 

 

I agree with some initial excitement over MM returning, but I also want Ana to have a story and VR back. These characters are some of the most interesting on the show. Just like you bring everybody back for Adam, boost these people and give them their due. 

18 hours ago, sd77 said:

Well, for Hillary fans I hope that it is true.  Maybe they can get Elena away from propping Devon and give her a character a real chance.  Hillary and Devon can live happily ever after.  I would love if VR came back.  That is probably the only thing that would get me watching again.

 

Doing a quad with all of the black characters is so stupid and ridiculous.  It screams segregation.  Of course the writing for the black characters already does scream segregation.  Why would this show be anything but segregated.

 

They hired her specifically as his love interest. I can't see how that's propping. 

7 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

They hired her specifically as his love interest. I can't see how that's propping. 

Yes! This!! Thank you!

7 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

They hired her specifically as his love interest. I can't see how that's propping. 

 

Propping as in Elena the character is pretty much a lifeless shell.  We do not get to know her.  Elena will never do anything that is not about Devon.  This is why she is a doctor but cannot work as one.  Whatever job she gets they will not show it.  She will not have friends of her own unless it involves Devon.  Elena will never be shown as an independent character.  She will never have a storyline outside of Devon.  She will only be seen as an extension of Devon.  That is called propping.  Compare that to the other female characters.  Who else is a shell with no purpose but to be a prop?  No one.  Even Ana has a life outside of Devon.

 

7 hours ago, sd77 said:

 

Propping as in Elena the character is pretty much a lifeless shell.  We do not get to know her.  Elena will never do anything that is not about Devon.  This is why she is a doctor but cannot work as one.  Whatever job she gets they will not show it.  She will not have friends of her own unless it involves Devon.  Elena will never be shown as an independent character.  She will never have a storyline outside of Devon.  She will only be seen as an extension of Devon.  That is called propping.  Compare that to the other female characters.  Who else is a shell with no purpose but to be a prop?  No one.  Even Ana has a life outside of Devon.

 

 

No, it's not. That's called the show being uninterested in the charecter and/or uninspired by the actress. Hilary didn't suffer that. 

4 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

No, it's not. That's called the show being uninterested in the charecter and/or uninspired by the actress. Hilary didn't suffer that. 

I am not sure why you feel the need to actress bash.  The fact is that the writers are pretty crappy to all of the black characters right now.  It is not fair to blame the actors for flat out racism.  Elena was cast to prop and prop only.  

1 hour ago, sd77 said:

I am not sure why you feel the need to actress bash.  The fact is that the writers are pretty crappy to all of the black characters right now.  It is not fair to blame the actors for flat out racism.  Elena was cast to prop and prop only.  

 

I'm not actress bashing. Just explaining what I think is the difference between propping versus a lack of interest by TPTB. It's not a knock to Brytni Sarpy. It's a knock to the writers whose lack of interest and inspiration stems from exactly where you suspect. Racism. Yet, somehow, you think that she's being written this way because she's paired with Devon.  As if Devon is bringing her down and the problem. That is also not the case. 

Edited June 22, 20196 yr by ajsp35801

Only on a soap can you have more money than just about anyone and still BARELY be written for because you're a person of color.

1 hour ago, DeeeDee said:

Only on a soap can you have more money than just about anyone and still BARELY be written for because you're a person of color.

 

Not person of color. The Latinos dont have a problem. Its only when you're black that you get treated this way. 

Edited June 22, 20196 yr by ajsp35801