Y&R December 2018 Discussion Thread

[Faulkner]

Soaps have been doing this since I don’t know when, but I can’t get myself worked up over these contrived, life-or-death medical crises that are typically resolved within days, especially with injuries that would result in long term  debilitation. Yeah, yeah, it’s TV, but they go to the well too often, and it’s boring. Devon crashed his car at high speed two years ago, was seriously “injured,” Hilary boo-hooed, and he was basically doing jumping jacks within two weeks. Bill on B&B had two life-threatening injuries this past year, and his peacock strut has no hitch. They just threw an old lady down a flight of stairs on DAYS, and I bet she won’t miss a tai chi class. 

 

It’s lazy writing. At least when Gabi got the ever-loving sh!t beaten out of her in prison on DAYS, she felt a long term impact. But they always do away with any ramifications when it’s narratively inconvenient, which is usually the following week.

[Faulkner]

I wonder when the new shots for the credits featuring additional cast will finally air.

[ajsp35801]

 

It's the choppy way it's put together and the scenes they choose to play versus those they chose to omitt that lessens the impact. 

 

 

With that said,  today's show was actually well done. I'm convinced it wasn't produced my Mal. There was a marked difference from yesterday's style, scene content, and who they chose to feature. 

 

Victor and Nikki's flashbacks made sense and flowed with what was happening real time.

 

Ana, Devon, and Nate seemed like a family. One fractured but a family all the same. Their content was good and it showed how they all were related. Thank God Ana said Nate was her cousin. Lol. Also, Nate spoke about Malcolm raising him. It seems the show was ignoring that for a time.  Devon and Lily are truly double cousins to Nate. I did not feel the lack Neil or lily, which was surprising. 

 

No rosales were on. 

 

And they remembered Dina existed. Her and Jack's relationship always felt sweet to me during this illness. 

 

This was not Mal. 

[Antoyne]

I'm still holding out hope for a miracle cure for Dina. She's been totally sidelined and it's been a complete waste of Marla's talent.

[ajsp35801]

 

Same. It might be my affinity for older people, but she's been so great. Her addition gives Abbots a nucleous they've lacked since John died. Jack just hadn't been able to do it. 

[Soapsuds]

Today's episode was B O R I N G

[kalbir]

Even though we've seen those Victor/Nikki flashbacks before, they were the highlight of today for me.

IIRC they were from December 1981.

[Soapsuds]

How many times will they continue to show them?...LOL  It just bored me to tears since I've seen them so many times already.

[ajsp35801]

Everytime they feel brand knew.  I like the feelings of nostalgia they bring on

[Faulkner]

I can get caught up in Victor and Nikki’s bond and chemistry, in spite of the  horrible nonsense they’ve endured over the years. EB sells Victor’s love for Nikki well, and I always enjoy old flashbacks. It’s all that stupidity from yesterday that I could have done without. And maybe I’m just jaded as some of the old soap tricks don’t work as well for me anymore.

[Soapsuds]

The relationship of Nikki and Victor has been trashed so badly that the flashbacks do nothing for me. 

[frequentsoapfan]

Nikki is so damn annoying and she and Victor are so toxic I feel nothing whenever they do flashbacks. 

[Faulkner]

I totally get it. I’m a sucker for EB when he’s tender and/or turns on the charm, though. When he was playing along with Dina’s delusions months ago, you could see why EB is such a star. He was so sweet with her.

[xtr]

I thought that today's scenes with Devon/Nate/Ana were enjoyable. It's nice that they are were bonding with each other as a family. I also liked Jack reminiscing with Dina. Nikki/Victor scenes are fine with me too. 

[Eboneece]

I tire of the same 1980s N&V flashbacks. I would like to see more from 1998 to the present.