I like DD and he's always been a stanch supporter of Y&R, but Paul was pretty much an island with LLB as spouse, no onscreen children or family. etc. I'm pretty sure the lawyers at Sony were like - it's time to start cutting male actors after 4 very visible female actors were shafted.

 

BTW - Which regime was DD cheering/jeering a few months ago? I can't remember exact timing, but I do remember he was pushing some narrative on social media.

7 hours ago, vetsoapfan said:

One of the only things going for Y&R in 2018 is the familiarity of its longtime cast.

That's all it has going for it when it comes to this viewer.  I haven't tuned in for months, but when I even consider it, it's to see "old friends". I was considering tuning in this fall because they always do that season right, but, well see.

 

I would actually agree that Paul had lost relevance if Y&R were a going concern, but it isn't.  The show itself has lost all relevance. It's clear as day we are in the last years, so why get rid of the familiar now? It just hastens the end.

You simply cannot keep everyone and YR is still recognized for its veteran cast.  

Suddenly, I'm having flashbacks to the day when I learned GL had dropped Jerry verDorn (Ross) to recurring status.  Granted, "recurring" and "fired" aren't exactly the same thing...except, they kinda are.

 

I won't pretend to be a DD fan, but I do think this is a lousy way to treat someone after FOUR DECADES of service.  As a longtime resident of GC, Paul Williams had plenty of story avenues worth exploring.  If the current regime couldn't realize that, then they have no business BEING in this business.

 

Oh, well.  Maybe Brad Bell will bring DD over to B&B (either as Paul, or as another character).  It ain't much, but....

 

1 minute ago, ChitHappens said:

You simply cannot keep everyone

 

No, you can't.  But there are several other actors, both veteran and newbie, who could have been given the boot before DD.

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Well, the show is bringing in Rey and he will be heavily featured and I'm sure their will be plenty cop story to tell. If they can do it for Rey, they can do it for Paul. 

 

Tessa is currently mixed up with shady people. There is natural story there for Paul to fit in. Why the show no longer plays these beats to crimes, unless Phyllis is on the trail, is a prime example of storytelling problems. 

I won't be surprised if Melody Thomas Scott will be next. She started not long after Doug. 

4 minutes ago, SoapDope said:

I won't be surprised if Melody Thomas Scott will be next. She started not long after Doug. 

 

EB was complaining about losing his NE set while JM gained one. I won't be shocked if the show pushes him to retire 

2 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

EB was complaining about losing his NE set while JM gained one. I won't be shocked if the show pushes him to retire 

I say CBS has sent down an ultimatum to Mal to kill the show so they can fill the times with more talk shows or reality TV. 

21 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

EB was complaining about losing his NE set while JM gained one. I won't be shocked if the show pushes him to retire 

Didn't Les Moonves save him during his last tough contract negotiation? I'm pretty sure I remember reading that.

 

This show is being gutted between familiar actors and sets being tossed.  Maybe that's what they have to do to survive a few more years, but it's sad to see.

Oh for [!@#$%^&*]'s sake. Done. 

What a damn [!@#$%^&*] show.

 

What does this mean for LLB? Without Paul, what does mean for Christine? If we're taking bets, I think KSJ is next. 

What is shocking to me is that he running the show like JFP usually runs a soap.  Long term players out.  Bland female lead. Rushed plots.  Getting rid of actors and characters in controversial ways and still keeping her job.

 

She was so unlike herself on the people management side when she was there.  Mal is cut from the same cloth.

 

Its like we ended up with Pratt and JFP as one person, but with even less talent.

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16 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

What is shocking to me is that he running the show like JFP usually runs a soap.  Long term players out.  Bland female lead. Rushed plots.  Getting rid of actors and characters in controversial ways and still keeping her job.

 

She was so unlike herself on the people management side when she was there.  Mal is cut from the same cloth.

 

Its like we needed up with Pratt and JFP as one person, but with even less talent.

Some of that leads me to believe that a lot of this is much bigger than any particular EP and is driven by Sony and/or CBS. (Plus, Mal trained under JFP, right?)

And Kate Linder is still on contract ??