Budget, episode guarantees, schedules for actors, taping so far ahead ... definitely lots of things at play that lead to a sloppy show. I also think there are often too many cooks in the kitchen. Corday, NBC, Sony ...

Edited April 27, 20187 yr by KMan101

3 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

Budget, episode guarantees, schedules for actors, taping so far ahead ... definitely lots of things at play that lead to a sloppy show. I also think there are often too many cooks in the kitchen. Corday, NBC, Sony ...

Yeah. Not to make excuses for Ron, as he can do bad by himself, but he has a lot of things working against him. 

The days of any soap writer being able to show their talent are long gone, but in Ron's case he tells the same stories everywhere he goes, so my sympathy is limited.

Not saying Ron deserves 'sympathy', lol, he's a mess on his own, and there's a lot I could bitch about with his 'storylines' but the show definitely has some underlying problems that can't all be placed on his doorstep.

I don't know if this could work......but if it could, shut down the damn show for 6 months. or thereabouts.  just continue what works and jettison everything else, and have Ron & Sheri switch places. i can tell when she's written and been over a show and when Ron has done it, because it looks like two different shows. 

I can’t give Ron any sympathy when he’s literally done the exact same Sane person hooks up with woman he knows is mentally ill ON EVERY SHOW HE’S BEEN ON. Scheduling and episode guarantees have ZERO to do with that.

No one's not trying to hold him accountable for shitty storytelling. I despise the DID [!@#$%^&*]. But the show has problems that aren't all on him.

I think if all the things mentioned above are what is keeping it alive.. maybe it's better to pull the plug and let it die.

I would miss Kate...that's about it.

5 hours ago, KMan101 said:

 

And it's always lovely how cops and doctors have personal conversations at length in front of everyone. I've worked in hospitals (transporting patients), there's hardly time to breath ... lol. I mean, granted there's downtime but jobs on soaps are so ridiculously handled. It must be nice to take an hour break, chat on the phone, hang with your bestie .... lol. Soaps.

 

I work in a hospital and it drives me nuts how there's no confidentiality, except when it's convenient for the plot. Kayla just casually tells Steve, "We just admitted Stefan DiMera." Like... no. You don't get to do that. This obviously applies to all soaps but it's annoying.

4 hours ago, KMan101 said:

No one's not trying to hold him accountable for shitty storytelling. I despise the DID [!@#$%^&*]. But the show has problems that aren't all on him.

Yep, it's the worst of two worlds. Ron's destructive tropes and DAYS poor, low-energy production.

2 hours ago, AlexElizabeth said:

 

I work in a hospital and it drives me nuts how there's no confidentiality, except when it's convenient for the plot. Kayla just casually tells Steve, "We just admitted Stefan DiMera." Like... no. You don't get to do that. This obviously applies to all soaps but it's annoying.

 

LOL exactly

3 minutes ago, Sindacco said:

Yep, it's the worst of two worlds. Ron's destructive tropes and DAYS poor, low-energy production.

 

Yep

1 hour ago, Sindacco said:

Yep, it's the worst of two worlds. Ron's destructive tropes and DAYS poor, low-energy production.

That’s probably the best way to put it. What an awful combo.

3 hours ago, Sindacco said:

Yep, it's the worst of two worlds. Ron's destructive tropes and DAYS poor, low-energy production.

 

Yep. It’s a nightmare.

 

Truthfully, I’d be able to overlook some of the budget and production poverty if Ron’s writing were better. Because the writing is SO bad, everything else is amplified.

 

Is filming so far ahead a problem? Yes. I get it that less time would afford writers the chance to switch gears, fix things, etc. But since almost EVERY story is a mess....

 

Are guarantees a problem? Yes. But a good writer would work those guarantees and work around those guarantees. Instead we have groups of characters isolated from almost everyone else. We have characters on different islands from other characters. It’s not working. 

Agreed that a good writer could/would work around these things. But it's still not just a Ron problem. Character isolation has been going on with this show for a long time now. He did a better job mixing up the cast when he first started. Most writers do but then it turns into the same groupings and isolation and we don't get natural interactions that should occur because someone can only be used in their own two-day-a-week story.

 

And agreed that if the stories were better it'd be easier to ignore some other things ...

 

DAYS needs a production overhaul or something. It's just not working. The show isn't cohesive no matter who the writer is. But, the poor stories are absolutely on Ron. Wasn't trying to tell anyone to feel sorry for him, lol, but the show has deeper problems than the writer, as has been evident during various regimes. It's very similar problems that occur each and every time.

Edited April 28, 20187 yr by KMan101