44 minutes ago, edgeofnik said:

Monday (US) wasn't bad, but it had a hilarious line illustrates how 'old' these writers are: Billy to Phyllis: "This online dating FAD." Good grief. I actually liked the Victoria/Reed stuff - that came across as more authentic than a lot AH's stuff. Hilary/Jack are still my endgame because I want her in the Abbott house and in Jabot. Plus, I like the history between the characters and the actors do work well together.

 

While GC Buzz could be viable - I don't think these writers have enough to make it anything more than a lazy plot point (like "Clarissa") to amplify a story. Honestly, there's nothing else going on in GC now that would be worthy of GC Buzz. Move Devon to Newman and Mariah to B&S. 

 

Why would devon be at Newman? 

The show is a mess with nothing really going on.

 

 

7 hours ago, Juliajms said:

I wish they would try MO/Abby with a woman. I know they never will, but when it's not working with men, go in another direction, I say.

 

Victoria!!!

2 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

The show is a mess with nothing really going on.

 

 

That's is all you ever do

My problem isn't with Reed paying for cam porn, but for using Victoria's credit card to pay for it. He's computer savvy, and I don't think he'd stupidly risk being caught.

 

Amelia Heinle is doing just fine as the frazzled, overwhelmed mother pushing ridiculous punishments on her teenage son. The actress isn't uncomfortable; she playing a mother who's clueless about mothering a 15 year old.  One month with no music or TV or guitar or computer or leaving the house? WTF???

 

i don't understand Devon backing Mariah with the Gloria story at GC Buzz. If he hated Hillary doing unvetted gossip, he wouldn't side with Mariah when she did it. 

 

I love Eileen Davidson, and she's the last one I think of when I hear "phoning it in." If she has any problem at all with the Ravi story, I can't see it. 

 

And what's the big problem with 40 year olds using the word "fad" (as in "online dating fad")?  I don't get how that's such an antiquated word. Billy and Phyllis aren't 12 year olds.

 

All in all, I'm loving the show and these days and look forward to it 5 days a week. I'll take Sally any day if the week over these other bozos we've lived with for a decade or more.

 

4 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Why would devon be at Newman? 

 

Because CI doesn't really exist and with Neil's history with NE, it may be a good spot to have Devon use the business skills he's acquired while putting him in a broader setting. Maybe even bring Neil back there. Although it has been bizarre than NE has hardly been featured during the past two months. 

44 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

And what's the big problem with 40 year olds using the word "fad" (as in "online dating fad")?  I don't get how that's such an antiquated word. Billy and Phyllis aren't 12 year olds.

 

It wasn't the word fad, but the concept that online dating, which has been around for 20 years, is a fad. It's not. 

Victoria is written as suburban mom and not as an heiress.

5 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

 

Because CI doesn't really exist and with Neil's history with NE, it may be a good spot to have Devon use the business skills he's acquired while putting him in a broader setting. Maybe even bring Neil back there. Although it has been bizarre than NE has hardly been featured during the past two months. 

It wasn't the word fad, but the concept that online dating, which has been around for 20 years, is a fad. It's not. 

 

Devon, the billionaire, relegated to working for Newmans? It's insulting not to mention terrible optics. The only way it would work is if Devon lost all his money and had to work to feed himself. More bad optics. 

 

While I'm not overly fond of GC Buzz, I do understand why it's needed for Devon and Hilary. The show refuses to give neil his own company and he's the only person it makes a lick of sense for devon or Hilary to work for. I even like how they've made lily a model and Chelsea a fashion designer. These young folks whose last name isn't Newman or Abbot that the show will never allow to marry into those families  need an independent career away from those companies that can also be tied into the cosmetics industry and storylines. It seems the show has a few lessons learned from the Neil character that's being applied across the board. Cause after 25 years of working for these people, he has nothing. I hope they turn devon into a full on media mogul with his own empire. 

 

OT, the show has also done the right thing by not making Mariah into and playing her as a Newman. It shows me they are looking towards the future. They've got nothing but a bunch if Newman babies on that show. By keeping her separate, they'll have offspring around that are connected to canvas but aren't related to Katie, Johnny, or Connor. 

13 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

 

Monday (US) wasn't bad, but it had a hilarious line illustrates how 'old' these writers are: Billy to Phyllis: "This online dating FAD." Good grief.

 

 

That whole scene was stupid. Someone with Phyllis' history judging this guy for talking about his ex and asking if she had mental health problems. Like...you are a legit crazy person, who are you?

 

And Billy being this rapscallion is feeling very forced. I'm just tired of him already.

 

They could have made a REALLY interesting story about social media with Reed but instead we get a story from 1996 of him stealing his mom's credit card when in all likelihood he'd be getting nudes on Snapchat. These people know nothing about modern technology.

 

3 hours ago, GregNYC said:

Victoria is written as suburban mom and not as an heiress.

 

I agree.

 

Also I'm gonna block you if you don't get the devil out of your icon.

Edited February 7, 20178 yr by Darn

Online dating has been around in some form for about 20 years now (match.com according to Wikipedia.org was founded in the early 1990s), so calling online dating a fad sounds ridiculous, especially coming from anyone who frequently uses a computer. Had it been coming from the mouth of Victor Newman, it could've been a tad less ridiculous.

 

The writers are truly showing their age with that scene, sorry.

 

And why would Devon work for Newman when they can't even get Noah to work there??

 

Unless they plan never to mention CI ever again on this show, what's the problem with having it exist as a viable corporation?  I thought folks were tired of Jabot and Newman being the sole corporate entities in Genoa City? 

 

If Genoa City is truly a midsize city and not a small town (as people have told me repeatedly in the past), wouldn't it makes sense that there would be more than one 'salt mine' in the city?

 

Originally, I thought Lauren's story was all about hightlighting a different family business besides the Newman's and the Abbott's. Maybe I was wrong? Do people actually want to see the writers beat that same ole horse, over and over again??

 

Again, I ask...what is wrong with making Chancellor Industries a viable company on the GC canvas? Is it budget concerns? Because we all know that the excuse of Jess being unavailable is nonsense, right?

Edited February 7, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

Jess Walton only went into "retirement" because they stopped writing for her/wrote crap. She WANTS to be there, that's clear. Because whenever she's there she puts all of her scene partners to shame. Watching her try to act against the three stooges (Billy, Victoria and Cane) is like watching Meryl Streep share a screen with January Jones. Laughable.

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Online dating has been around in some form for about 20 years now (match.com according to Wikipedia.org was founded in the early 1990s), so calling online dating a fad sounds ridiculous, especially coming from anyone who frequently uses a computer. Had it been coming from the mouth of Victor Newman, it could've been a tad less ridiculous.

 

The writers are truly showing their age with that scene, sorry.

 

And why would Devon work for Newman when they can't even get Noah to work there??

 

Unless they plan never to mention CI ever again on this show, what's the problem with having it exist as a viable corporation?  I thought folks were tired of Jabot and Newman being the sole corporate entities in Genoa City? 

 

If Genoa City is truly a midsize city and not a small town (as people have told me repeatedly in the past), wouldn't it makes sense that there would be more than one 'salt mine' in the city?

 

Originally, I thought Lauren's story was all about hightlighting a different family business besides the Newman's and the Abbott's. Maybe I was wrong? Do people actually want to see the writers beat that same ole horse, over and over again??

 

Again, I ask...what is wrong with making Chancellor Industries a viable company on the GC canvas? Is it budget concerns? Because we all know that the excuse of Jess being unavailable is nonsense, right?

 

I think fans are open to it. The problem is TPTB at Y&R. It upsets the hierarchy they've put in place for their lead families. If you've got other families (Fenmores and Chancellors) running around that town with just as much money and power then Newmans and Abbots ain't so special afterall.

 

And, i think for some, wanting Devon and Hilary working at Jabot and Newman is less about those companies and more about thinking those two characters need to be in story or paired with Abbots and Newmans to get airtime and story...despite Sally, thus far, showing us that's not true under her Y&R.  BJ led the counts last month along with PB. But this thought seems to persist. 

Edited February 7, 20178 yr by ajsp35801

45 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

But this thought seems to persist. 

 

You know why.

This show is a complete bore!  Not sure what some of you are seeing but to each his/her own. 

53 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

You know why.

 

According to those keeping stats on twitter, BJ and MiM have appeared on the most of Sally's episodes. Hilary is getting good writing, tons of focus, played as a lead of her own story, been given an independent career, etc. Sally has point blank said she loves her and shown it onscreen. At this point, I don't know why. What else do people want? You're gonna have to explain it to me.