I feel like Guza really did snuff out everything GH could have been and once was. As much as I complain about Ron, he did bring some life back to the show briefly, but it's like living next door to annoying people who scream outside your door all night. 

Rome wasn't built in a day.

It didn't burn down in a day either.  

 

(No, I've no idea what that means.)

I don't really think the baby swap story on ATWT was that bad. 

 

Of all the shows she's worked for, I'd say she was rotgut awful at one (AMC). The rest of the time she's grindingly mediocre to poor. 

 

Considering how much people love going back and forth with a troll for no apparent reason, I tend to wonder if they really dislike her GH that much after all.

 The only think i like about Jeanine P's ATWT run was the creation of the unapologetically gay Dr. Reid Oliver, who of course Jeanine P kills off and poor Luke couldn't get a happily ever after with Reid.

He was the only bright spot about the show during its last year on the air. The rest of the show was just dreadful under Passanante as HW.

I feel like Guza really did snuff out everything GH could have been and once was. As much as I complain about Ron, he did bring some life back to the show briefly, but it's like living next door to annoying people who scream outside your door all night. 

Sorry, I must have missed the life he brought to the show.  Ron hadn't told one complete coherent story in his entire 3 years.  He simply didn't know how.  HACK!  His GH was garbage and hate Guza and his shortcomings all you want, but he told stories, and that is what soaps are about.  He Sweeps were big and made sense.  With Guza/Phelps, there would be no Miller, Stafford, Paevey, Howarth stinking up the joint.  The vets were back?  I remember the foolishness of Anna in bed with Luke and he walks out while she looks in disappointment like an underpaid hooker.  Remember she pulled the mask off of Duke to learn that it was Faison, he was taken away and then a few minutes later, she is about to have sex with Duke on the couch? Finding out the man who tormented her was masquerading as her lover didn't deter her one bit.  Robert on a ledge ready to jump because Robin is dead but skips out of town after learning he has a son that's not his?  

 

The vets were brought back?  Where are they?  Exactly what did they do while here?  

I think Tracy should have a cancer storyline. She has breast cancer 20 years later from Monica. Show the struggles of it and what to do. Have Monica and Tracy bond as Tracy is told she has months to live and is dying. Just a great way to give the Quarter mains a heartfelt storyline.

There isn't a head writer or writing team that could do what Jean and Shelly are doing  They chose wisely finding writers who love GH and have a history. 

 You should sell real estate…..LOL

There isn't a head writer or writing team that could do what Jean and Shelly are doing  They chose wisely finding writers who love GH and have a history. 

 You should sell real estate…..LOL

Swamp land!

Jean was at ATWT for 9 years as head writer her longest soap by far.

Yeah cause P&G wanted ATWT cancelled. Thus no change in HW. 

There isn't a head writer or writing team that could do what Jean and Shelly are doing. Imagine if Gary Tomlin and Chris Whitesell were writing GH it wouldn't be as good. They chose wisely finding writers who love GH and have a history. Jean was at ATWT for 9 years as head writer her longest soap by far.

Agnes Nixon. Douglas Marland, Bridget and Jerome Dobson, Pat Falken Smith. Henry Slesar, Bill Bell and Gordon Russell to name a few did it better than Jean and Shelly for decades. Gary Tomlin actually was once a great writer and did a great Job on Another World. Jeanine P co wrote the first couple of years at ATWT with Hogan Sheffer who was a better writer.

Those writers were icons but daytime past and what Jelly are doing is taking what these legends did and tell in a contemporary way with a much smaller budget.  The field of soap writers is small these days.

And who's fault is that for the current state of Daytime?

The higher-ups recycling the same old writers who weren't good on the previous soap they were on

 

Anyway two characters I miss seeing: Brook Lynn and oddly enough Maya.

 

There isn't a head writer or writing team that could do what Jean and Shelly are doing. Imagine if Gary Tomlin and Chris Whitesell were writing GH it wouldn't be as good. They chose wisely finding writers who love GH and have a history. Jean was at ATWT for 9 years as head writer her longest soap by far.

 Jeanine P co wrote the first couple of years at ATWT with Hogan Sheffer who was a better writer.

Hogan's first year was awesome! After that it was just afterglow…..LOL

Those writers were icons but daytime past and what Jelly are doing is taking what these legends did and tell in a contemporary way with a much smaller budget.  The field of soap writers is small these days.

Jeanine and Shelly are not spring chickens. GH has no budget since that money goes to all there big hires like Stafford and a fat and bored Miller.The field of writers is small that's why the same hacks are always hired.

And who's fault is that for the current state of Daytime?

The higher-ups recycling the same old writers who weren't good on the previous soap they were on

 

 

 

Its like someone once said…no one cares about soaps anymore…so they look for the cheapest writers to get and that are interested in HW….notice how some of the great writers that are still around don't HW for soaps anymore?

I feel like Guza really did snuff out everything GH could have been and once was. As much as I complain about Ron, he did bring some life back to the show briefly, but it's like living next door to annoying people who scream outside your door all night. 

Sorry, I must have missed the life he brought to the show.  Ron hadn't told one complete coherent story in his entire 3 years.  He simply didn't know how.  HACK!  His GH was garbage and hate Guza and his shortcomings all you want, but he told stories, and that is what soaps are about.  He Sweeps were big and made sense.  With Guza/Phelps, there would be no Miller, Stafford, Paevey, Howarth stinking up the joint.  The vets were back?  I remember the foolishness of Anna in bed with Luke and he walks out while she looks in disappointment like an underpaid hooker.  Remember she pulled the mask off of Duke to learn that it was Faison, he was taken away and then a few minutes later, she is about to have sex with Duke on the couch? Finding out the man who tormented her was masquerading as her lover didn't deter her one bit.  Robert on a ledge ready to jump because Robin is dead but skips out of town after learning he has a son that's not his?  

 

The vets were brought back?  Where are they?  Exactly what did they do while here?  

Guza did a lot of damage killing off Alan, Emily, Tony and Georgie as Sonny, Carly and Jason{Stone Cold} Morgan ate up GH. But Guza could tell a story from beginning to end unlike Ron. As a GH viewer since 1987 the last 15 years have been hard. Ron did bring back the vets like Scotty, Lucy, Kevin, Felicia then did nothing with them.