You can't forget that at the peak of her popularity, which was more than a decade ago, Daytime people were still not booking a lot of lead parts on primetime. She was talented enough to be on two popular shows at once, but this was before film actors started coming to television because the writing for women was better. People forget that the current environment for television is not how it has always been, no matter how talented the actress may be.

I do think she is not helping herself, but if this is what she needs to do based on her feelings and information she has collected, then what does my opinion matter?

She should be there, but now she never will be.

I never said it was hopeless. I said it was UNLIKELY.

PLENTY of minority writers, producers & directors currently in the industry would love platforms & funding for their projects but it never comes (while many of their white peers are never without jobs).

I don't understand why she'd want to come back to daytime in the first place. It isn't as if daytime is doing any actor, regardless of ethnicity, any favors.

You can't forget that at the peak of her popularity, which was more than a decade ago, Daytime people were still not booking a lot of lead parts on primetime. She was talented enough to be on two popular shows at once, but this was before film actors started coming to television because the writing for women was better. People forget that the current environment for television is not how it has always been, no matter how talented the actress may be.

+1.

I like you DeeDee and many of your arguments, I agree with but when you ask for examples and I present them to you, I sense a moving of the goal post.

Where did I ever say it was PLENTIFUL? I NEVER used that word. I said it was difficult and there, of course, are not nearly enough minorities whose work is represented in these ranks. I used the online outlets as one example but cable could be added as well.

Again, it is not PLENTIFUL and I never nor would I have ever used that word (c'mon!) but there are people here and there taking the chance and striking on their own.

I don't mention cable because I don't subscribe but I hear Power and Survivor's Remorse are doing pretty well. Ava Duvernay is working on something. Steve McQueen has something in development with HBO and across the pond with BBC.

Victoria Rowell unlike many of the other Black soap actors you mentioned is different than most because she is known outside of daytime in films as well as TV and classical art. I happen to think she is more well known than most daytime actors (with some exceptions).

We're probably not going to agree on this, at all so I'm just going to leave it at that. Like I said, I wish VR well, whatever path she takes and I hope something good comes from her efforts.

Edited February 11, 201510 yr by DramatistDreamer

If you're talking deals, not many of any color have that but there are many indie filmmakers whose work is featured on Netflix. Filmmakers like Victoria Mahoney and before Selma, Ava Duvarney's work has been featured there.

Victoria has been in the business longer than either of them. And again. I'm talking about trying with a pilot. Amazon, since they also sell books and have probably sold her Rich and Ruthless novel could be a bitter fit. I wonder has she tried this route. It seems as if she put away her crowdfunding effort, which misfired as she should've gone the IndieGoGo route. Shemar Moore, who didn't have half as good an idea was succesful there.

Sorry, but as an artist myself, I refuse to believe all is hopeless. Difficult, always but impossible. Nah.

Save your breath. Your argument is well thought out and valid, but you're arguing with someone who, in all honesty, would probably be upset if VR landed an opportunity as you suggested, as it would put a kink in their agenda of insisting that every last person under the sun is a racist troll.

(Not saying there isn't racial injustice throughout Hollywood - obviously, there is. However, some people would rather watch minorities suffer so that they can stomp their feet and call all people racist, than to admit that, in certain instances, an actor's behavior may be the root cause of their status in the unemployment line.)

Edited February 11, 201510 yr by Mr. Vixen

Wait, did someone suggest GH hiring her? Oh, I'm sure Michelle Stafford would LOVE that idea.

Wait, did someone suggest GH hiring her? Oh, I'm sure Michelle Stafford would LOVE that idea.

She could be Epiphany post gastric bypass surgery for Milo

Wait, did someone suggest GH hiring her? Oh, I'm sure Michelle Stafford would LOVE that idea.

Stafford and Rowell apparently made up, but GH won't hire for the same reason B&B won't hire her...

I sense a moving of the goal post.

If you do it's because YOU'RE moving them.

Just because there are increased outlets for media does NOT necessarily mean more opportunities for minorities.

You can't use a HANDFUL of success stories as proof that if THEY can do it anyone (especially if they've been in the industry long enough) can. That's a strawman argument meant to derail the discussion.

Tamara Tunie & Tonya Lee Williams (like Vicki) are known outside of Daytime, and have moved into production yet neither of them has experienced the success of an Ava DuVernay or a Steve McQueen (both of whom have produced or directed Oscar nominated/winning films in the past few years) so comparing them to struggling, less critically acclaimed producers & directors of color is apples & oranges.

Robert Townsend's been in the industry longer than any of them, has plenty "connections" & is a proven success and no studio is throwing money at him to produce anything on all of these "new media avenues".

VR and MS have made up? That's good to hear. Seriously.

She has become such a joke. Hey VR employers can fire people if they say something against their boss or job that is negative on facebook, so why would you be any different? Bosses can even ask for your FB password legally these days too.

I almost feel sorry for her, she went about this all the wrong way.

As opposed to Tim Stickney who also harshly criticized Daytime the "right way" & also never worked on a soap again.

Edited February 11, 201510 yr by DeeeDee

How does she even prove retaliation? There is no way of knowing why the show won't rehire her, even though it's fairly obvious that her comments haven't helped her get rehired. Quitting and then being critical of a previous employer can get you put on a "not eligible for rehire" list. It can also prevent you from getting hired other places, which is probably the case with her.