Some personality, purpose and direction would be nice for Noah. Let's take it from there.

Great idea. Instead of Nick owning a damn bar, it would have made far more sense for Noah to own the bar and shun Newman like Nick tried to do with the coffeehouse. But noooo. They had to give it to nick. And his frat boy routine is starting to look like an aging man trying to be cool and hip. Am I the only one getting that vibe?

Edited October 30, 201411 yr by ajsp35801

The problem is that #YR is focused on "mature leads". This leaves folks like PB's Jack playing a stud in the prime of his life having shirtless love scenes every other week. He and Kelly just almost had passionate couch sex in his office. come on...ridiculousl.

The problem is not that Y&R is focused on "mature leads." The canvas is overrun with random people, most of whom are badly acted and DEFINITELY badly written/conceived. The show has tried to move on from the veterans but it can't because it has almost nothing to move on to. Besides, the Y&R fans are still (in part) determined to have their vets.

Edited October 30, 201411 yr by YRBB

Great idea. Instead of Nick owning a damn bar, it would have made far more sense for Noah to own the bar and shun Newman like Nick tried to do with the coffeehouse. But noooo. They had to give it to nick. And his frat boy routine is starting to look like an aging man trying to be cool and hip. Am I the only one getting that vibe?

Nick, Sharon and Phyllis still look pretty young to me, which is why I think it was a huge mistake to give them multiple adult children at this point.

The problem is not that Y&R is focused on "mature leads." The canvas is overrun with random people, most of whom are badly acted and DEFINITELY badly written/conceived. The show has tried to move on from the veterans but it can't because it has almost nothing to move on to. Besides, the Y&R is still (in part) determined to have its vets.

That was a term used here before to explain why certain actors should not have a romance. I never got it either. Lol.

The show did try years ago. But JFP has singularly focused on actors over 40. Even so much so that she aged up key players. And almost every contract player she has brought on was 40 or over. Every young person is in a triangle with a parent or their airtime and story is lacking or nonexistent. I don't see this as trying.

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Noah is just one in a long line of young 'men of a certain age' who have been given little purpose and whose character was essentially directionless.

Kyle, Mason, Tyler, Fen. Until recently, Devon was a mainstay on this list but his craptastic recent storyline gives him a temporary reprieve. If I cared more, I'd add Kevin Fisher to the list as well.

Nick, Sharon and Phyllis still look pretty young to me, which is why I think it was a huge mistake to give them multiple adult children at this point.

I agree with this. Aging up Summer was a huge mistake.

Great idea. Instead of Nick owning a damn bar, it would have made far more sense for Noah to own the bar and shun Newman like Nick tried to do with the coffeehouse. But noooo. They had to give it to nick. And his frat boy routine is starting to look like an aging man trying to be cool and hip. Am I the only one getting that vibe?

You see, I don't think that's the answer at all. I would have liked for Noah to have inherited Victor's love for business and Sharon's initial ambition. It would still worry Sharon and would create personality clashes with Nick that could fuel years of drama. On top of that, you would add a well-written Kyle and the feud would literally write itself into the next generation. Instead, we got five half-baked Kyle/Noah episodes and that was that.

Noah is just one in a long line of young 'men of a certain age' who have been given little purpose and whose character was essentially directionless.

Kyle, Mason, Tyler, Fen. Until recently, Devon was a mainstay on this list but his craptastic recent storyline gives him a temporary reprieve. If I cared more, I'd add Kevin Fisher to the list as well.

Take note that the women of the same age don't have that problem because they are mostlypaired off with an older guy. Summer is probably the only exception.

Edited October 30, 201411 yr by ajsp35801

You see, I don't think that's the answer at all. I would have liked for Noah to have inherited Victor's love for business and Sharon's initial ambition. It would still worry Sharon and would create personality clashes with Nick that could fuel years of drama. On top of that, you would add a well-written Kyle and the feud would literally write itself into the next generation. Instead, we got five half-baked Kyle/Noah episodes and that was that.

Well then, folks were right. A recast would definitely be in order. Robert Adamson's Noah was just NOT believable in that business feud with Kyle.

The Jabot lab is nice? My God. It looks like sh!t! What is with the depressing grey everywhere? All the swinging doors? The name Abbott and Jabot and Lab plastered everywhere just in case what? We don't know what it is we're looking at? Spare me. I'm just hoping I'll get used to it.

AAAAH my lovely Jill, looking so nice, and they managed to work in some shade towards Katherine. But did she really just tell Billy that the only woman he's ever really loved is Victoria? VICTORIA? Excuse me while I go and barf out the entire contents of my stomach. BRB.

Chelsea letting Billy go & loving him JUST as Adam is coming back is such manipulative, horrid, unconvincing writing. Such irony is always a great staple of soap opera (and drama in general) but you have to make it convincing. You have to sell it and you have to make the audience like it so much that they don't care how convenient the timing is.

ZOMFG La Queen Diva Sullivan is herrreeeeeee. The way she looked up IT'S A WRAP SHUT DOWN PRODUCTION GIVE HER THE DAMN EMMY NOW! Shivers and Goosebumps galore!

Kevin whining whining whining and shoving his nose into Michael's business. So what else is new?

Well La Diva Sullivan is besties with JFP so it's possible but she will get a contract. Sullivan was praising JFP on the radio show with Martha Madison said Jill is a dear friend and her kind of gal. That they are both new yorkers and they have a bond. I don't see that as kissing up to JFP they are just great friends.

They could be writing for RA strengths the way they wrote to accommodate Billy Miller and Michael Muhney. If TPTB had made a choice on which direction they wanted to go with the character of Noah and were consistent in writing him, it wouldn't be that hard.

In some cases the groundwork had already been laid years ago.

For instance, Devon went into Philanthropy, why couldn't he and Noah partner to build a foundation? Weren't they friends and in music together at one point? Noah's personality is such that he cares, he takes care of people and he shows concern for people in distress...would it have been such a stretch for him to want to help a larger group of people and put his trust fund to use?

Instead of having Kelly randomly waltz in as a coordinator, they could have hired her and then there would be some grounds for her to be in the mix with the Billy/Victoria saga after the Delia tragedy. And it would have given Devon and Noah something to ponder on how they brought Kelly to town-- you may have had Victoria at odds with her own nephew over it.

Another example, they had Noah explore photography. If they had had Noah pursue photography and want to go into photojournalism, that would have created another reason for Shemar Moore, to make another cameo, and become Noah's mentor. If he encourages Noah to pursue dangerous stories abroad like Malcolm did, that could create conflict with his family and his girlfriend.

The coffee house would only have made sense, IMO, had it remained a family business and Nick and/or Sharon wanted Noah to take over while Victor was opposed to it. But as it is the coffee house has changed hands twice, is no longer the hub of activity it once was and has done nothing to bolster story for the previous owners (Kevin/Chloe) nor the current one (Dylan).

But with the use of some imagination and some consistent writing, Noah could have been a character with purpose and direction.

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Kelly Sullivan is a 36, going on 37, nobody. The last word that could be applied to her is 'diva'.

Whoever dressed Jess Walton today should get a medal. That's the best she's looked since the 1990s! Cleavage! Black! Shoulder pads! Sparkly necklace! Great hair!

A miracle.

Jess seems to have dyed her hair as well, and thank god, it makes her look a little younger.

I do think that most people can improve with the help of an acting coach. Not every soap actor has to be a master, they just have to be able to deliver their lines naturally. Neither Tyler nor Abby could do that, but I agree that with work that might have improved. Even now, MO is better than when she started.

I don't think they really have to worry about Noah getting more attention than Nick unless they actually recast with a sexy actor. Part of the problem is that they aged the character too much. Now he can't really have typical soap stories without making great grandparents of Nikki and Victor. They could have worked around that by making the character gay, but here we are.

It's true they did age Noah too much, b/c it makes him look too close his parents age and older than big sis, Mariah. While Noah isn't "HOT", i still feel having Nick and Sharon as parents has put limitations on him. If Y&R ever go the gay route....I don't see it being a Newman.