Members Faulkner Posted October 3, 2014 Members Share Posted October 3, 2014 JFP, Sony, et al see the Bell way as terribly slow and old-fashioned and are ashamed of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted October 3, 2014 Members Share Posted October 3, 2014 ^^Yep. They're ashamed of the way that took them, and kept them, at #1 for decades. Makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted October 3, 2014 Members Share Posted October 3, 2014 That is it, yes. It's no secret, it's old news. That's why they weighed in with LML, etc. first off - someone dramatically different - then with retooling the show dramatically towards a Fronsian ABCD bent. Remember, Barbara Bloom and Frons were in a sort of cheerful 'competition' for years. Now the whole show is built on flash-in-the-pan couples, on focus groups, and on actors that some of the people at the top allegedly know are insufficient (Heinle, Christel Khalil) but fear removing as it might damage their ABC-style couples cred. That's also why they hired Jill. She is peppy and cheap money-wise, she can drown the old expensive show's budget and 'outmoded' style in a bathtub - bring on the tacky music, the exterior shots - and she also brings with her the superficial renown and imprimatur of the glossy ABC flagship soap which won a slew of Emmys due to JFP's calculated block-voting. Bloom and now the post-Bloom CBS no doubt saw JFP and Guza's GH the way most of the press did - sleek, stylish, well-renowned and modern. They wanted to bring that cheap yet snazzy glamour to the 'new' Y&R, and they know she will cut costs. She also brought more ABC stars as they continue their obsession with emulating the old Frons approach, in the hopes of youthifying the show and revolutionizing it. But I disagree with others: While Jill brought him in, I'm sure Sony/CBS ran a check on Pratt, and I'm sure they know what he's done. It's not like they were clueless. They know what he did at GH, and apparently they were most dazzled by his primetime work, like too many soap execs so often are - Melrose Place! 90210! Those ABC Family shows! To them that is glamour, style and modernity and they are lucky to have him, even if it means paying him a shitload. They don't really like Y&R, but they would like to make it cheaper, hotter, sexier and younger while they have it. Pratt is perfect for that, in their eyes. They don't think he will kill it or ruin them. They think he's too good for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EnglishTea Posted October 4, 2014 Members Share Posted October 4, 2014 There has been a battle between the Bells, Sony and CBS regarding Y&R for years. The Bells used to have more say, but when budgets were slashed, Sony took more control. There is still a battle going on between CBS and Sony, it shall be interesting to see where things stand in six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allmc2008 Posted October 4, 2014 Members Share Posted October 4, 2014 I totally agree. Maybe the Bells want it to cancel so they can rebuild a new online one from scratch using the characters? The new show could be 30-minutes and redress B&B's sets ala AMC/OLTL 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dragonflies Posted October 4, 2014 Members Share Posted October 4, 2014 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted October 4, 2014 Members Share Posted October 4, 2014 B & B for production tips.. yes... but B & B for actual writing, characters, and plots... negative. I am surprised that Kay Alden tried for the job again. I would have assumed she would have learned that submitting a bible, or long term projection, wouldn't have worked.. it didn't work when she tried for the AMC head writing gig. Though I worry that had she gotten the gig, the show would have revolved around Victor again.. like it did when she was sole head writer before. Though I do have to say that she did wonders for the Dennison siblings that Bill Bell introduced near the end of his tenure with no clear cut purpose for either of them... plus came up with the idea of pairing Jack/Phyllis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted October 4, 2014 Members Share Posted October 4, 2014 Alden who was consulting for the ABC soaps at the time was offered AMC but turned it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EnglishTea Posted October 5, 2014 Members Share Posted October 5, 2014 Alden was never offered AMC, she submitted a story projection, but it wasn't accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LeClerc Posted October 5, 2014 Members Share Posted October 5, 2014 Has CBS (Sony?) still not put out an official press release regarding Pratt yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members YRBB Posted October 5, 2014 Members Share Posted October 5, 2014 The day before Pratt's first episode: EXCITING THINGS ARE COMING!!! (oh, & Pratt is gonna be headwriter now, OK, Thanks, Bye) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members allmc2008 Posted October 5, 2014 Members Share Posted October 5, 2014 Didn't she talk about her bible in an interview? If ABC played there cards right and accepted her, and allowed her to write and not micro manage (Yes this is me being theoretical) could you IMAGINE the publicity: BELLS PROTEGE NOW ON RIVAL SOAP! I would have bought every issue of that SOD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JWDrama1980 Posted October 6, 2014 Members Share Posted October 6, 2014 This makes me sick to my stomach...Pratt and JFP are grim reapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ajsp35801 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2014 Someone thinks Heinle and Khalil are insufficient? Allgedly? Never heard this tidbit. I need details, if you don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amybrickwallace Posted October 6, 2014 Members Share Posted October 6, 2014 I feel bad for the Y&R fans - this team has been ruining soaps for how long now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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