Members Eric83 Posted June 17, 2014 Members Share Posted June 17, 2014 That's debatable. Soaps would have died either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members titan1978 Posted June 17, 2014 Members Share Posted June 17, 2014 I think it was possible to regain that audience, but most of the shows and executive bungled it. I was not really a fan by the end of his first run, but Reilly grew Days' audience coming out of OJ, while even Y&R lost some ground. A series of bad personnel changes in HW spots or EP positions killed Daytime, and a significant number of those crappy decisions happened in the wake of the OJ panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted June 17, 2014 Members Share Posted June 17, 2014 All of this! OJ didn't kill soaps! Networks with very bad decisions did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amybrickwallace Posted July 22, 2014 Members Share Posted July 22, 2014 While the OJ coverage certainly didn't help soaps (it dominated ALL media outlets the summer of 1994; I can't speak for how much it affected the soaps come fall as I was back at school and didn't keep track of daytime TV then), I agree it is more a case of TV network executives (or TV "nitwit" executives, as Jay Leno may or may not have accidentally referred to them years ago in a monologue) passing the buck. They didn't and still don't understand if soap fans want to watch crashes, explosions, rapes, etc., they'll wait for the news. As a result, I turned off soaps and never went back. If they are unwilling to write what I want to see, then why bother watching? The soaps would have gone by the boards with that kind of mismanagement anyway, and the OJ saga just happened to occur at a certain time when the soaps were slipping from their glory days. In short, I think the OJ media circus had a little to do with soaps slipping (how could it not, with so many preemptions?) at the time, but not in the wide scope of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted August 6, 2014 Members Share Posted August 6, 2014 Very well said. The OJ-killed-the-soaps myth is tiresome, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members VirginiaHamilton Posted August 6, 2014 Members Share Posted August 6, 2014 ^5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted August 6, 2014 Members Share Posted August 6, 2014 I think a lot of things killed soaps. O.J. was just one of them. But the soaps themselves, many of them, had certainly not declined (or declined much) during the trial. The other issue with O.J. was that we got inside those people's lives, every single day - the coverage on the lives and backgrounds of O.J., Nicole Brown, her boyfriend, Kato Kaelin, even the judge and the prosecutors, was incredibly layered, and it was showcased with non-stop airtime. Soaps panicked after that, because they thought they had to compete with a real-life atrocity by upping the ante with shock value. They missed the fact that it was an atrocity where we grew to feel as though we knew those people inside-out - something which was already a strength of daytime before O.J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gray Bunny Posted December 27, 2014 Members Share Posted December 27, 2014 celebratingthesoaps.net And that was just the beginning.... Note: they DID rebound in the weeks afterwards, but not to the level they were in the first few months of 1994. It's interesting to see how some shows were affected as a result. Y&R spent most of the first half of '94 in the 8's (even hit 9.4 and 9.7!) yet stayed in the 7's afterwards. 1995 to be posted soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted December 27, 2014 Members Share Posted December 27, 2014 Those are both from '94, right? If so, it is odd (and good) that Another World was the ONLY soap to maintained some steadiness while the rest dropped dramatically. Just shows how I always viewed AW to be the glue that kept everything together and when it was cancelled, everything fell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cassadine1991 Posted December 27, 2014 Members Share Posted December 27, 2014 I still don't get why they canceled Another World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted December 27, 2014 Members Share Posted December 27, 2014 To make room for Trashions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sindacco Posted December 27, 2014 Members Share Posted December 27, 2014 That sounds more like a description for the mid to late-00s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gray Bunny Posted December 27, 2014 Members Share Posted December 27, 2014 Soap ratings sank, post-OJ (the trial escalated their decline, although 1993 saw an upswing for a number of shows like Y&R, GH, DAYS, and OLTL), and their panic and knee-jerk attempts to goose their numbers back up is what did them in during the second half of the 90's. EP's and Headwriters started coming and going at rapid speed, with the memo given to speed up the stories and do "never been done before" stories for shock value. DAYS' success at bucking the trend of the ratings decline is what brought in the zany, wacky stories of the late 90's. Demonic possession, Lady In White "ghosts", mind control, and brainwashing helped them inch up to No. 2. by the second half of 1995. Other struggling shows thought that was the key to success. So, we had stories of voodoo, angels, turkey basters, and clones. 1998 was probably the most outrageous year for soaps across the board, save for a few shows like Y&R who remained traditional and classically slow-moving. Consequently, that's also the year the numbers across the board (except Y&R, mostly) sank to new lows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted December 27, 2014 Members Share Posted December 27, 2014 Agreed with Gray Bunny. It's interesting to note how 1997/1998 were just badly campy on almost every soap. They lost their realism. Not to mention the film vs. tape look. Days is a perfect example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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