Members DRW50 Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 I think you can thank marceline's will power for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 exactly how was the history of Loving trashed? He barely utilized or did anything to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sungrey Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 Personally, I expected Michael to get a little criticism over these, but come on people. Days can't win every award... lol I think General Hospital's honor is well deserved. The "Mommy's Here" scene ranks up there with "Clink Boom" and "LAURA!!!!" as scenes that are iconic in GH history. Now we'll see how the 51st year goes. Y&R would have been my most disappointing soap, mainly for the behind the scenes stuff more than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cat Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 Some things I agreed with, some things I didn't, lol. I am totally, violently AGAINST his call to get rid of Hilary on Y&R. Hilary is giving me life at the moment! I love watching her and her story unfold. I guess Fairman would prefer Mishael Morgan join the 100+ cast of GH and play yet another recast sister of Felix? An identikit AA who pops up every 3 months to snarl "hilarious" zingers in Felix's direction and give TJ and Molly a reason for being? NO THANKS. Hilary and MM are the epitome of what Y&R is doing right at the moment. Hope JFP doesn't listen to this. P.S.: I can't wait for Nelson Branco's 25 page 18-font Best & Worst List. If you think categories like Best Use of Baked Goods are bad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Eric83 Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 Gaga isn't exactly the hottest star right now. I don't get the comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 LOL, Carl! I have to say I like the image of me holding Carlivati at bay like some kind of Dark Phoenix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 Michael Fairman gets props because this list is FAR more balanced than the others. Not only that, but he was very fair to the PP soaps, especially OLTL. I'm glad he noted how much that show improved in it's short life span. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChitHappens Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 Stopped reading these lists last year, and I see no need to back track. What a bunch of agenda driven fangurls have to say about an industry they know nothing about is of no interest to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 I consider Gaga to be a tiring, derivative, overhyped famewhore so I think the comparison is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Antoyne Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 I actually thought OLTL started out really strong, sucked in the middle, and ended on a high note. Those first few weeks were excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheap21 Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 so you arent looking to the next 5 threads devoted to someone elses Best/Worst list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 I didn't think OLTL's early material was all that terrible either. I didn't even mind Victor's return, even if it petered out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Vee Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 I thought OLTL started out the stronger of the two, really incredible, then it meandered in the middle and then recouped near the end. It was doing more character building with the ensemble than the show had done in maybe the last decade on ABC, but for a period there, because of the 2-episode schedule, you would have weeks of almost nothing but character vignettes, and that's not what the show needed. There was very little that I thought was bad, and a lot of it very necessary, but I did find some of it pretty slow and at times repetitious. During that time Kelley Missal was really carrying the show. In the last four to six weeks, IMO, it recovered. In the larger scheme of an actual soap opera, that kind of brief blip is nothing provided they had been on a 4 or 5-day schedule and year-round. The actual amount filmed was maybe 8 to 10 weeks of air shows. But with a show with an uncertain future and growing pains, it looked like a lot more than it was. I shake my head when people say the show was so strange and unrecognizable - I saw many, many really bad stretches on OLTL in Malone II, Higley, Carlivati in that same brief interval of time in the last decade, but we don't remember those because they came and went, as those valleys do on soaps. AMC started slow but good, then IMO maintained a baseline of absolute quality - a great balance of plot and character - from the moment Michael Nader returned, approximately. It was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted December 30, 2013 Members Share Posted December 30, 2013 For me the only part (although I haven't finished the show) that I'd say verged on bad was some of the Todd mess, and Matthew/Michelle, although that was salvaged by KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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