It will be a damn shame if Mishael Morgan is written out in the coming month or two because they've already put her character into a corner. The actress has a lot of promise, but the entire storyline with Rose Turner has been a huge miss.

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it's a shame that this story is only on every second or thrid day and lots of great ideas get rushed through/flushed down the toilet. We had so many interesting characters added (Marcus Wheeler, Gus, Rose) which got dropped very quickly and now there is Hillary and probably Mason to join the list. The so-called co-head writers on this show are terrible at writing outlines/plotting; thank god one of them god a promotion. Yawn

It will be a damn shame if Mishael Morgan is written out in the coming month or two because they've already put her character into a corner. The actress has a lot of promise, but the entire storyline with Rose Turner has been a huge miss.

This,,,please do not write this character out. However, I don't think she is in any more of a corner than Kevin was back when he was attempting to commit murder. If ever there was a villain that needed to be redeemed, Hilary is it.

Hilary does NOT need to be redeemed. She needs to stay as the young, sexy vixen. Does she need to be fleshed out? Yes. Redeemed? HELL no.

Hilary does NOT need to be redeemed. She needs to stay as the young, sexy vixen. Does she need to be fleshed out? Yes. Redeemed? HELL no.

Well it depends on how far they take her depending on whether she needs to be redeemed...at this point, I say no. But if she tries to kill anyone, YES! I agree that she needs to stay a young, fresh vixen...

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it's a shame that this story is only on every second or thrid day and lots of great ideas get rushed through/flushed down the toilet. We had so many interesting characters added (Marcus Wheeler, Gus, Rose) which got dropped very quickly and now there is Hillary and probably Mason to join the list. The so-called co-head writers on this show are terrible at writing outlines/plotting; thank god one of them god a promotion. Yawn

I didn't realize this until you mentioned it, but it's very true. This is the only story that has worked on Y&R IMO. Between Wheeler, Gus and Rose, you have three horribly under-utilized characters that could've been good fits. Then you have Mason who is sexy and is played by a much better actor than Tyler, yet he has no screentime. These characters along with Neil, Lily, Cane (based on association with the story), Leslie, Devon and Hilary should all be running things on Y&R. There are so many interesting ways these characters could be weaved together. It's improving, but it could be so much better.

Hilary does NOT need to be redeemed. She needs to stay as the young, sexy vixen. Does she need to be fleshed out? Yes. Redeemed? HELL no.

ITA I'm tired of everyone scheming always having to be redeemed.

Granted I missed a few episodes but who did she murder violently that she has been written into a corner?

These characters along with Neil, Lily, Cane (based on association with the story), Leslie, Devon and Hilary should all be running things on Y&R. There are so many interesting ways these characters could be weaved together. It's improving, but it could be so much better.

As much Josh Griffith got backslash (in parts rightfully so...) he made the miracle to create dynamics in such "boring" characters such as Neil or Devon and plagued by uninspired actors, LILY (!) and CANE (!), who haven't been interesting in 10 years or since their inception with this huge umbrella story. These were the folks you could rely on that they put you in your sleep during past regimes. It's such a shame that it still could have been better - yet it I'm flabbergast that these bores are what is driving the show. And it is a storyline that fits the Y&R fabric. Because most of the rest as we all know is...

He did seem to try with those characters and it was the only thing he did that worked. I just wish they'd go further with Devon. I noticed he had a little scene with Amber at Kay's funeral. She likes black guys, so why not try and chemistry test them? He could be her new sugar daddy to take care of Rosie. Or why not have his hatred for Hilary turn into some hot, secret sex, only for him to find out she's using him. I also thought he should've been paired with Chloe years ago.

I thought today's episode was pretty good. Enjoyed Adam confronting Chelsea about her lie. I think MM/MCE have good fighting chemistry if that makes sense.

I'd rather Amber not stick around and have no interest in seeing her and Devon together.

I'm not saying just put her with Devon, but chemistry test her around. Billy, Cane (the only time he was interesting was with her), Devon, Tyler, Mason, etc. Throw her everywhere. Amber is one of my all-time faves so I admit I'm biased. I'd much prefer to have her on B&B though.

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I thought today's episode was pretty good. Enjoyed Adam confronting Chelsea about her lie. I think MM/MCE have good fighting chemistry if that makes sense.

I agree, I thought MCE and MM really brought it. MM put aside the snark and Adam's anger and sadness really felt like they were coming from a genuine place. I am not an MM fan but I have to give him major props for making Adam seem human and relatable yesterday. And Chelsea ran a gamut of emotions, to the point where this is the first time I have really enjoyed watching MCE on Y&R (and I liked her on AMC).

I would also add that Billy Miller in his scenes with Steve Burton was also better than he has been and I kind of dug the Billy-Dylan friendship. Again, two characters that haven't really gripped me, and I felt invested.

ITA I'm tired of everyone scheming always having to be redeemed.

Granted I missed a few episodes but who did she murder violently that she has been written into a corner?

I've missed some episodes, too. But IA -- it's so fun to see a bad vixen. the little looks Hilary gives when she is observing everybody -- icy and calculating and naughty!

ITA I'm tired of everyone scheming always having to be redeemed.

Granted I missed a few episodes but who did she murder violently that she has been written into a corner?

No one. I hope she stays bad and continues screwing with people. We have been lacking a true vixen for a while now.

As much Josh Griffith got backslash (in parts rightfully so...) he made the miracle to create dynamics in such "boring" characters such as Neil or Devon and plagued by uninspired actors, LILY (!) and CANE (!), who haven't been interesting in 10 years or since their inception with this huge umbrella story. These were the folks you could rely on that they put you in your sleep during past regimes. It's such a shame that it still could have been better - yet it I'm flabbergast that these bores are what is driving the show. And it is a storyline that fits the Y&R fabric. Because most of the rest as we all know is...

Those characters except Neil shouldn't even be on the show! Ever since Daniel Goodard (Cane) came to the show and the writers starting focusing on the Cane character the show has sucked big time. They need to send Lily and Cane to live in Australia and never to be seen again!

The Katherine's memorial episodes were a disaster. However, I don't blame the actors for the most part, they can only do so much with what was written...and for the scripts to have been penned by Janice Ferri Esser and still be that bad was a real surprise. But then, Ferri Esser can only work with the breakdown she's been given and the breakdown writer can only work with what Griffith gives them.

I lay the blame for the performances squarely with Griffith as the writing was just flat, boring and not in keeping with what Y&R's history is. And the execution, poor direction with many wide shots devoid of Y&R music cues that would have added so much to the episodes, lays at JFP's feet. Using the right music costs nothing, yet JFP clearly went with a 'modern' approach and it failed miserably.

The actors clearly didn't know what choices to make, and most of them went with 'happy' or 'nostalgic'...when they should have gone with angry and devastated (Jill), crushed and thirsty (Nikki), more hurt than expected (Victor), quiet (Cane, he really is getting on my nerves in a fast forward this crap kind of way), sad (Devon)...I could go on. The random calling out during the eulogies was just plain stupid.

And then we have Christine and Paul remarry? Ludicrous.

I'm glad Jeanne Cooper didn't live to see those episodes, they were terrible.

The Katherine's memorial episodes were a disaster. However, I don't blame the actors for the most part, they can only do so much with what was written...and for the scripts to have been penned by Janice Ferri Esser and still be that bad was a real surprise. But then, Ferri Esser can only work with the breakdown she's been given and the breakdown writer can only work with what Griffith gives them.

I lay the blame for the performances squarely with Griffith as the writing was just flat, boring and not in keeping with what Y&R's history is. And the execution, poor direction with many wide shots devoid of Y&R music cues that would have added so much to the episodes, lays at JFP's feet. Using the right music costs nothing, yet JFP clearly went with a 'modern' approach and it failed miserably.

The actors clearly didn't know what choices to make, and most of them went with 'happy' or 'nostalgic'...when they should have gone with angry and devastated (Jill), crushed and thirsty (Nikki), more hurt than expected (Victor), quiet (Cane, he really is getting on my nerves in a fast forward this crap kind of way), sad (Devon)...I could go on. The random calling out during the eulogies was just plain stupid.

And then we have Christine and Paul remarry? Ludicrous.

I'm glad Jeanne Cooper didn't live to see those episodes, they were terrible

Agreed. So terrible