I never even bother to watch Colleen's death. WTH was the point of that? I have ignored just about everything that happened under Alden/Smith from 2004, LML, and MAB. MAB in particular was a disaster for Y&R creatively from day one. Using her first story to indulge her love for modern art showed that she had no clue about the genre. She was nepotism at its worse.

Smith made so many bad decisions with Y&R. I would not be surprised if that is true about him being unable to give her more outs. In any case, it all worked out for Lyndsy in the end. She might have ended up staying on Y&R if Smith had accommodated her.

Edited January 15, 201312 yr by Ann_SS

The problem since Jack Smith's tenure is Y&R's constant use of short term stunts & temporary trends instead of their own canvas.

For instance The Barber Winters didn't HAVE to be "boring" after Vicki left but there was absolutely no use for those characters beyond treating them as tokens instead of honoring the loyalty of proven talents like Veronica, Tonya, Kristoff & Bryton.

But every subsequent post-Alden regime hasn't cared to invest in Y&R.

Instead they comfortable allowing rabid fanbases & new fans to ruin the show with their agendas.

Edited January 15, 201312 yr by DeeeDee

I really have no interest in this Newman vs Abbott story. I'm sick of Adam and the new regime seems to love him.

Actually, the last five episodes or so (including today's Tuesday ep for the US) have been pretty good. In my humble opinion. I love the Jabot and NE corporate scenes, have really been missing them. Like the bullying SL and Michael and Lauren's involvement (I hate the Fisher/Baldwins like the rest of you and wish GR and EH would land a pilot somewhere, but I can't hate on Michael and Lauren, I just can't). I even am ok watching Phyllis. I'm not really feeling Nick and Avery though, which makes me sad as I love Jessica Collins and used to love Avery.

And I know this is heresy but... Steve Burton might bring some new energy to the show. Which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.

Wrong thread.

Edited January 15, 201312 yr by Vee

Now on a shallow note the ladies looked great yesterday.

I enjoyed today's epi. Nice to see Jack get the upper hand on Victor despite his annoying conscience(Ghost John) berating him.

And while I can't stand the Baldwin family I have to say Lauren, Michael, Paul, and Fenn are doing great work in this bully storyline.

I never got into Y&R except for a brief time. Unfortunately MAB's Y&R was dreadful so that week ended fast. Anyway, how are things now?? Better/Worse/Watchable?

I never got into Y&R except for a brief time. Unfortunately MAB's Y&R was dreadful so that week ended fast. Anyway, how are things now?? Better/Worse/Watchable?

Depends on who you talk to. I think it's more watchable now but I know if you read Facebook they miss MAB's characters and the stunt writing.

I'd say watchable (and better than MAB's).

Is there a way to kill a Ghost? Ghost John is insufferable. I want him to get locked in a tanning bed.

Josh Griffith loves him some John Abbott.

Josh Griffith loves him some John Abbott.

I guess he's a Jerry Douglas fan but John's orange ass is so annoying.

Talk of Jack being Summer's father has started again.

Depends on who you talk to. I think it's more watchable now but I know if you read Facebook they miss MAB's characters and the stunt writing.

I think that says more about the people on Facebook than anything else.