You have said this but how do you know what is acceptable for Nick. Just because TLG had a .5 doesn't mean HH at a .09 is ok. It may very well be ok but I haven't seen any press releases from Nick bragging about the shows performance.

Ratings aren't good. The Demos are hard to get, but total viewers for each episode have been released. Hollywood Heights has yet to reach a million viewers in total viewers, while Disney Channel, Nick's main competition usually get between 2-3 million viewers in that same timeslot (it's often the last half hour of a Disney Movie or a Disney sitcom rerun).

I also wonder what this means for Jess Walton's return....

Reading Jeanne Cooper's latest interview (quite good actually http://smashinginterviews.com/interviews/authors/jeanne-cooper-interview-memoir-details-troubled-marriage-sexual-abuse-and-hollywoods-golden-age/ ) this is what she says re: Jess Walton...I don't think it sounds all that promising or definitive.

Melissa Parker (Smashing Interviews Magazine): Will Jess Walton return to Y&R?

Jeanne Cooper: She left that so open, but in the meantime, they haven’t said, “You’re coming back.” I miss her like mad. Of course, I miss that whole relationship with Jill and Katherine. Nobody can have fights like the two of them.

Ratings aren't good. The Demos are hard to get, but total viewers for each episode have been released. Hollywood Heights has yet to reach a million viewers in total viewers, while Disney Channel, Nick's main competition usually get between 2-3 million viewers in that same timeslot (it's often the last half hour of a Disney Movie or a Disney sitcom rerun).

It's a teen drama I'm pretty sure they are competiting with the ABC Family audience not the Shake it Up audience. Nothing on Nick at Nite would match ratings to night time on Disney Channel.

Y&R does need new writers but I dont want to see Alden or Smith back. They were just awful There stories were boring as hell with zero payoff.

I really don't think anyone but Cartooni could be worse than MAB. Cuz if they got hold of Y&R it would be a clusterfuck of campiness. Who were the considered the last great writers on Y&R?

Awful news for Y&R. Expect to see every actress over the age of 40 fired unless they are her friends. She is the one who forced a cutting away of a kiss between Kin Shriner and Jackie Zeman because "nobody wants to see old people kiss" or words to that effect.

They were just awful

Except they weren't.

Alden's Y&R was the best overall soap on tv of the last 15 years of Daytime.

Except they weren't. Alden's Y&R was the best overall soap on tv of the last 15 years of Daytime.

Dee I usually agree with you 100% but I just hated Alden as HW. Y&R was a boring mess.

Alden's Y&R was far from boring.

Maybe you guys have differing opinions and there is no right answer on this subject.

The irony of what happened at GH was at GL she was the opposite. There was a lot of sexy times with the older performers. They all did it more than the kids.

Maybe you guys have differing opinions and there is no right answer on this subject.

Crazy talk!

Awful news for Y&R. Expect to see every actress over the age of 40 fired unless they are her friends. She is the one who forced a cutting away of a kiss between Kin Shriner and Jackie Zeman because "nobody wants to see old people kiss" or words to that effect.

Aside from MTS, most of Y&R's over 40 actresses are dead weight.

That's the biggest problem with Y&R - there's nothing left to save. All her other soaps, before she demolished them, still had potential (even GH, which I was bored to tears with years before she came in). Y&R has none.

As for Alden, I thought her first year as headwriter was Y&R's last truly good year (1998). But once the Billy/Mac stuff started, and then the sperm story, I just couldn't watch.

Dee I usually agree with you 100% but I just hated Alden as HW. Y&R was a boring mess.

Then you hated the years previous to her ascension as well because Alden was intrinsic to Bill Bell's storyline writing. And Bill supervised the show for several years after he ceased to be HW.

Alden is the ONLY one who could write this show into any semblance of what it once was. She won't leave B&B though, that's a happy set and a happy show.

Then you hated the years previous to her ascension as well because Alden was intrinsic to Bill Bell's storyline writing. And Bill supervised the show for several years after he ceased to be HW.

Alden is the ONLY one who could write this show into any semblance of what it once was. She won't leave B&B though, that's a happy set and a happy show.

Pretty much.