What did I miss? What happened to the car, did it explode?

They did not just kill off Hope, are we sure Guza is gone?

That's what I said. This is more Guza than RC's normal stuff.

Why oh why does every new writer that comes on have to try and conform to the same crappy old stuff from the 00s.

They did not just kill off Hope, are we sure Guza is gone?

...Oh hell no. I'm already over this crossover. Knowing RC, Cole and Hope will somehow have escaped and will return down the road. He can never stick to a decision he makes, even if it's a terrible one like this.

Also, could they be ANY lazier when it comes to starting Todd vs. Sonny? I mean really.

Edited February 28, 201213 yr by alexisfan07

Wait, why would Starr stay in Port Charles if Cole and Hope died? It doesn't make any sense.

Edited February 28, 201213 yr by alexisfan07

That's what I said. This is more Guza than RC's normal stuff.

Why oh why does every new writer that comes on have to try and conform to the same crappy old stuff from the 00s.

RC killed off Jessica's baby and treated the story as comedy until the very last minute. I don't think he cares. We're lucky he didn't play comedy music.

My guess is the baby will be found at some point, and kept hidden - Anthony will probably be the culprit, or Kate.

The tacky part of all this is that they are doing this solely to make it easy for Starr to hook up with a new man. With the endless, endless saga of Starr's pregnancy, it's incredibly crass that the baby dies for a booty call.

Edited February 28, 201213 yr by CarlD2

Wow they could have just had Hope go back to Llanview with Todd and Blair. Smh.

Could Holly be telling the truth? It would serve Luke right.

"I don't want any of that blaming yourself garbage in my ER..." I get the feeling Epiphany says "Not on my watch" a lot.

The tacky part of all this is that they are doing this solely to make it easy for Starr to hook up with a new man. With the endless, endless saga of Starr's pregnancy, it's incredibly crass that the baby dies for a booty call.

I get that they want to start her fresh on GH for their fans but to alienate the OLTL fans who went through those storylines with her? So, so stupid. There was middle ground and they did it all wrong.

Edited February 28, 201213 yr by alexisfan07

Wow RC really did undo Ethan's paternity to make him Roberts Take that Geary

I get that they want to start her fresh on GH for their fans but to alienate the OLTL fans who went through those storylines with her? So, so stupid. There was middle ground and they did it all wrong.

I think RC and FV saw the baby as an accessory (basically irrelevant to Starr's life after she got her back) and therefore they may think viewers will also be fine with this accessory being discarded.

I honestly believe Hope will be alive and hidden somewhere, once Starr has moved on with Michael. But why go to such an extreme? Will viewers want to see Starr moving on so soon after a tragedy that would leave many people emotionally crippled for the rest of their lives? And what about viewers who have never seen Starr before? How will they feel about a woman who essentially leaves her baby to die and then finds a new boyfriend in the process?

Their biggest failing at OLTL was not dealing with the emotional weight of the stories they told, and apparently that hasn't changed.

I'm also trying to figure out

why Blair and Carly were clinking glasses and being friendly in that promo. Is Blair going to be having a fun drink at a time like this?

Wow RC really did undo Ethan's paternity to make him Roberts Take that Geary

It's too bad they are doing this right as Ethan is gone, but then, Robert and Holly won't be around either, so I guess it doesn't matter.

I can't help it, I'm laughing, cause that's the biggest FU to Geary and his butt licking of Guza.I'd have loved to see his reaction to this rewrite of that rewrite

Their biggest failing at OLTL was not dealing with the emotional weight of the stories they told, and apparently that hasn't changed.

Yep. They just don't seem to get WHAT viewers want to see or how they want to FEEL the stories and go through all the notches with the characters, not just observe them from a detached, viewer standpoint. Hope is a character, a child. No one wants to see her die but if they absolutely feel it's necessary, they need to prove why that decision was made through the writing. If not, it was a prop death which I have no doubt it will be.

I really don't get what would keep Starr in Port Charles now unless she's gonna fall for Michael in two days time.

Edited February 28, 201213 yr by alexisfan07

And killing off a child is HUUUGE emotionally and it's my guess that Starr will not be given adequate time to realistically grieve before being thrown under a man. And I don't mean Monster's Ball "Make me feel guuud!"-type grief-relief, but movin' on, over it, this is my life in Port Charles now.

So, I actually tuned in for the first time in months to prep for T&B's arrival later this week and I've no reason to believe that Cole & Hope are dead. Like Ron did before with Matthew, he'll wait until the last days of this show to bring those two back to throw this Starr/Michael union (which I can see coming from a mile away) out of whack. (I'm sure that Ron will do the same with Robin in the final weeks).

I did chuckle at the missing birth year on Starr's driver's license, though. Still can't wait to see T&B light into Sonny for killing their grandchild and the child's father.

As for the rest of the show:

Though it's always a treat to see flashbacks (especially those that go back to when the show was must-see TV), Sonny's fond memories and tears don't mean jack since he is the same jackass that told his goons to escort "Ms. Scorpio to her car" as he turned his back on her after promising his 'little brother' Stone to look out for her. TPTB may have forgotten that, but I sure haven't.

Though I would've been happier to see Helena take out that waste of space known as Ethan, I'm happy to see that Ron is undoing the damage that Guza caused in making that waste of space the bastard child of Luke and Holly. Now he can go wherever useless characters go and never be seen again.

Perhaps, it's because I don't care for Kirsten Storms and never understood why she was praised for essentially doing a bootleg Meg Ryan impression, but I see nothing wrong with Jen Lilley's acting and don't get the reason for the hate. She comes across as an actual human being and not a squeak-toy, so that's a plus in my book. And though I haven't been attached to the Maxie character since Robyn Richards played her, I think that she did just fine in conveying her denial and grief over Robin's "death".