NEXT WEEK ON OLTL: Irene cryptically tells Viki about Victor's dark secret, then puts her on a trail to a clinic in Switzerland and a mysterious redhead who looks like her late sister, Meredith.

Spoiler!

"I am Meredith. Hey Vicks!"

Now is Todd gonna be jealous that he didn't get to be Victor, Jr.?

City High needs to make a new version of their "What would you do" song.

"What would you do if your special needs twin son was at home

Crying all alone on the bedroom floor 'cause he’s hungry

And the only way to feed him is to join the CIA for a little bit of money"

LOVED the show today and I absolutely loved finally getting answers about Todd. I thought that the explanation was great...really is keeping me wanting to know more!

I agree with several others who are entertained by this thread! I haven't watched OLTL much in years but my interest is piqued with the two Todds so I've been following the synopses. But the common thread most people say is that this makes no sense -- since when have soaps made sense?? There are different levels of belief that people are willing to suspend but really, they never make TOO much sense which is why I assume we're all here;) Anyway, I wouldn't get too caught up on the ages of Tina or the Todds either. Yes, Tina should be about 49 but Cord was retconned in the 40th anniversary show to have been born in 1968, which means that a 23-ish year-old Tina would have been after a 17-year old Cord. There was no mention of an age gap between the two back then that I recall (and Cord's mother Maria would have jumped on that in a second). Even if the writers don't come back with some elaborate story about why Tina doesn't remember her mother's pregnancy, they could easily just say she was 2 when all this happened. That would put her year of birth at 1968. Both Tina and Cord were older than me in the mid-80s but Cord's retcon now puts him younger. I see no reason why Carlivati wouldn't go that route with Tina as well.

You're all still trying to figure out this Todd story? lol

I feel so violated. I found myself laying out at the pool all day thinking about this. I know it doesn't make a lick of damn sense, but I am FASCINATED. I just want to know more, and can't wait for Tina to roll into town. He may have his flaws, but kudos to RC for finally telling a story that is not only a ratings hit, but sparking lots of discussion.

So. . . Victor Jr. lost his virginity to Blair? I'm sorry, this whole story is just hilarious.

This sh-t is DUMB as hell. TSJTodd was PERFECTLY brainwashed into becoming Todd with all his memories, emotions, and experiences within the span of two months, ALL while healing from plastic surgery? WTF? Seriously WTF!?!?!

TSJ played Walker in 2003

Actually he did have a scar, but not when he joined. He gained one after he fought with John during the rapemance story. It was supposed to be a nod to history

This is stupid, and the continuity holes are gaping.

So they're saying that Irene raised Victor, Jr., while Todd went off with Peter. If that were the case, Tina would have remembered all this -- as she was raised by Irene up until the time Irene died when Tina was a teenager. However, I distinctly remember when Todd was revealed to be Victor's son, Tina saying that she had no memories of Irene having had another child; and that was played off by the whole premise of Todd being raised by other people. Who the hell doesn't remember their life as a teenager? How are they going to explain Irene having Victor Jr., while she was also raising Tina (who previously said she doesn't remember her mother having another child?)

Also, they're saying that Victor Jr. was given all of Todd's memories via hearing Todd recall his life. So, assuming TSJ is Victor Jr., does that mean that Tumbo recalled those very specific details that Victor Jr. gave to Starr when she quizzed him about things that only Todd would know? And it was a petty/throwaway tidbit (about Suzanne and one of Starr's old reptiles), not anything major, that he recalled in explicit detail that proved to her that TSJ was in fact Todd. Don't tell me Tumbo relayed something that petty for Victor Jr. to adopt to his memories. Not to mention those execution scenes. I don't care if Victor Jr. did *hear* Todd's life story, when his own life was flashing before him during execution, he wouldn't have recalled the visual imagery pre-2003.

I call bullsh*t on all this.

And Dear Lord, seeing those two Tumbo's in one scene together was creepy.

Oh boy, Im totally and utterly confused

Thats a scalpel in her hand, not a needle. And she has to be some type of hack to inject something into his face and slice it down across and have all that blood coming out of that. She was slicing him up to mimic the original scar

That scene was too weird

Todd and Kevin are the same age.If Kevin was 2 years old when Tina was introduced, then Todd was 2 years old at that time as well.

As for your second question, go ask Ron bc thats a big glaring hole in the story that makes absolutely no sense given the the actual history of the show.

I actually think ABC should start selling these on their website

OMG this is driving me absolutely crazy

I knew this would happen the minute I read Irene was alive. You dont dig up someone who's been dead for 33 years and not create a clusterf--k. All attempts to rationalize and make logical sense of this mess only creates more holes and questions which cant be answered

So many great posts that I quoted them all. WTF is Ron Carlivati smoking....LMAO...today's show was laughable and full of S H IT!

Edited August 17, 201114 yr by Soapsuds

Me trying to figure this story out:

I love this story line thats all.

SoapBoy, just *DEAD* at your vodka-soaked ass feeling violated pool-side.

Sometimes I think the "One" in OLTL has become a rather ironic title. The weird thing with OLTL is that it can be so fun and outrageous with these retcons if you choose to look at the show as like a splashy comic book come to Life. It's only an "issue" (for me at least) when you try to reconcile the artistic/intelligent/ground-breaking (subjective words but I think you all know what I'm getting at) storylines with the campier fare. OLTL is kind of schizo in that way, but then again, what better show...

SoapBoy, just *DEAD* at your vodka-soaked ass feeling violated pool-side.

:lol: It was quite the sight.

There I am, just lounging on my floaty, drink in hand (something the administration has been consistently fighting me over. Actually I was in the middle of a debate on whether or not I should be permitted to milk my "Pineapple Mama" in-pool, when 2 o'clock struck. I promptly informed the pool manager that we would need to continue this conversation later, as "my stories" were starting.) pondering One Life to Live at great length. I am thoroughly convinced that I will not be allowed into this resort ever again. Or, if I am, they will promptly inform the bar of my arrival in the future.

Dude, you are a mess of a trip!

Watching now on TouYube... first of all, Natalie looks great in that dress, and baby Liam has beautiful eyes.

Now... Viki is taking the sight of her long dead best friend who slept with her father and fathered her twin brothers extremely well. And no Irene did not get salty with Viki. This crap is nuts. And this is an awful lot of info to process in one ep, but there's really no other way.

Wow, Kelly and Joey... what are ya gonna do? This is best. This is just best. Wasted opportunities but ultimately a happy ending. I'll take it.

Aubrey and Cutter should just be dropped.

Edited August 17, 201114 yr by SFK

It was quite the sight.

There I am, just lounging on my floaty, drink in hand (something the administration has been consistently fighting me over. Actually I was in the middle of a debate on whether or not I should be permitted to milk my "Pineapple Mama" in-pool, when 2 o'clock struck. I promptly informed the pool manager that we would need to continue this conversation later, as "my stories" were starting.) pondering One Life to Live at great length. I am thoroughly convinced that I will not be allowed into this resort ever again. Or, if I am, they will promptly inform the bar of my arrival in the future.

OMFG. DEAD. :lol:

I bet a lot of newer fans are enjoying all of these nods to history the way in which I enjoyed them in the mid-'90s. But, man, all of the stuff Dorian and David are referencing was done so well, it was so much richer than the sort of throwaway line references might imply. It's really making me ache to see OLTL in the '70s when Victor was still living to get the full effect of my own viewing experience. :-\