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Um, so we have that ever lengthy thread on classic Y&R articles and discussion, I was wondering if we could do one for B&B? I mean the whole show is a hot mess and has been well at least since 2007/2008 and unwatchable but I'd like to think back to when I loved the show 1991ish-2006. A lot of stories liked and/or remember well have now been long forgotten like Ivana's murder and the mystery around it, Macy vs. Karen, Connor(someone mentioned him recently!) Dylan and Michael, CJ/Becky, Sly, Grant. Hell Macy was my favorite character right after Sally of course. :wub:

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22 minutes ago, AusBoldFan said:

I agree, it would be wise to swap out episodes up to 750 with those on the YT channel. Amy’s episodes, whilst we greatly appreciated her efforts, had sync issues and music muted - most of the fashion show episodes are silenced.

I haven’t checked episodes 750-1000 in the vault, but I assume these are fine quality, albeit a screen recording rather than a backend rip? But I’m not sure. 

Videoland now only carry’s from episode 1001 (season 5). Most recent episode they have uploaded is 1436 from season 6.

I had only noticed two episodes from Amy with songs muted, which I already requested and @rsclassicfanforever already redid those, so that shouldn't be an issue.

 

My concern is that someone on the other thread mentioned the YouTube versions have scenes cut. I haven't watched them so I don't know to what extent that is the case. Probably best to preserve both versions if we can.

 

 

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Re: The episodes that I mentioned, I don't believe the cuts were intentional, nevertheless there are scenes missing from at least one episode. Another episode was intact but the visual quality was extremely dark and the audio quality was subpar.

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1 hour ago, BoldRestless said:

My concern is that someone on the other thread mentioned the YouTube versions have scenes cut. I haven't watched them so I don't know to what extent that is the case. Probably best to preserve both versions if we can.

 

Thanks for the info. I read that thread, a user mentions the first ever slap between Stephanie and Brooke was cut from the YouTube episodes. This isn’t correct - see 11 minutes into episode 283 (below). Unless they fixed up later?

Do we know for sure whether the YT episodes have trimmed scenes? I know there was a technical error with episode 271 which went dark after 16 minutes - they have fixed that particular episode in the last 48 hours.

 

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On 12/21/2021 at 5:34 PM, AusBoldFan said:

Will be dropping all 5 episodes of Inside Bold into the Vault early next week (into the ‘behind-the-scenes’ folder).
Note: there are snippets of this documentary on the official YouTube page, however the uncut broadcast contains much more content. Each episode runs for 22 minutes and airs in Australia week of 20 December 2021. 

I have dropped these five 22 minute episodes into the Vault. See 'behind-the-scenes' folder.

Enjoy!

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1 hour ago, AusBoldFan said:

Thanks for the info. I read that thread, a user mentions the first ever slap between Stephanie and Brooke was cut from the YouTube episodes. This isn’t correct - see 11 minutes into episode 283 (below). Unless they fixed up later?

Do we know for sure whether the YT episodes have trimmed scenes? I know there was a technical error with episode 271 which went dark after 16 minutes - they have fixed that particular episode in the last 48 hours.

 

271 and 283 have been replaced on YouTube, with 30 minute versions with black chunks for commercial placeholders. Better than the mess that was uploaded originally. They weren't deliberate cuts, just faulty uploads. If you dragged the timer along the bottom for the original uploads, you could see that the full episodes were there, you just couldn't watch them. You can't check that now they've been replaced, but that was the case, just faulty uploads, no deliberate cutting.

People complained in the comments for these episodes, so thankfully TPTB took notice and replaced.

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On 1/3/2022 at 12:30 PM, Chris B said:

I finally made it to either Feb or March 1988 and I'm so confused about the Forrester daughters. Felicia I won't get into because she hasn't arrived and eventually got her due with Leslie Kay. Kristin, on the other hand, is a mystery to me. They've done a good job of developing the character and by now she has an interesting romance with Clarke, a fascinating relationship and backstory with Stephanie and she's designing at Forrester. How did she become such a forgotten character?!

Just my two cents. Wait for the arrival of Mick Savage; this is when Kristen started to loose her appeal. She was written off in January 1990 - and definitely NOT missed. Her return in 1992 didn't make me love the character again. The chemistry with Clarke was still there, but he was written a s complete jerk back at that time (played compellingly by Dan McVicar). However, Kristen acted rather wishy-washy with him, sometimes calling him out on his BS and then keeping silent about it. Her subesequent returns in 1993 and 1994 were only for weddings if I recall. The 2001 return was a complete waste of time because Kristen & Tony were just an ill-plotted storyline which could have been good. 

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5 hours ago, AusBoldFan said:

I have dropped these five 22 minute episodes into the Vault. See 'behind-the-scenes' folder.

Enjoy!

thank you so much!

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1 hour ago, sheilaforever said:

Just my two cents. Wait for the arrival of Mick Savage; this is when Kristen started to loose her appeal. She was written off in January 1990 - and definitely NOT missed. Her return in 1992 didn't make me love the character again. The chemistry with Clarke was still there, but he was written a s complete jerk back at that time (played compellingly by Dan McVicar). However, Kristen acted rather wishy-washy with him, sometimes calling him out on his BS and then keeping silent about it. Her subesequent returns in 1993 and 1994 were only for weddings if I recall. The 2001 return was a complete waste of time because Kristen & Tony were just an ill-plotted storyline which could have been good. 

I have to say, watching these old episodes again, I have got a whole new appreciation for Dan McVicar's Clarke! He manages to play a completely amoral and self-centered character who routinely lies and cheats and only cares about his own career, and still he remains charming and funny. 

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1 hour ago, Videnbas said:

I have to say, watching these old episodes again, I have got a whole new appreciation for Dan McVicar's Clarke! He manages to play a completely amoral and self-centered character who routinely lies and cheats and only cares about his own career, and still he remains charming and funny. 

Dan McVicar sure was fantastic in his inital run. He also had chemistry with ALL the woman he was paired or sparred with. That's why it is kinda sad that his 1996 amounted to nothing after the Unicorn Fashions storyline. The closest he then came to a storyline was being Morgan's sidekick in 2000. Therefore it was rather surprising that the show used Clarke for someof the Jackie M stuff even though he was poor man's copy of his former self then.

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Clarke Garrison was B&B version of "Tad The Cad", many soaps in the 1980s seemed to have their own version to varying degrees of success, but McVicar did a very good job of walking that tightrope.

He's a character that could return to the canvas and if written competently, could be highly effective, with McVicar in the role. 

Don't hit me, but I actually think he and Teri Ann Linn had easy chemistry together. It's giving me ideas, lol.

5 hours ago, Videnbas said:

I have to say, watching these old episodes again, I have got a whole new appreciation for Dan McVicar's Clarke! He manages to play a completely amoral and self-centered character who routinely lies and cheats and only cares about his own career, and still he remains charming and funny. 

In that initial run, McVicar was so effective of leaving Clarke ambiguous where his true feelings lay. Of course, the writing also made this possible.

You were always wondering if and to what extent was it possible that Clarke, on some level was capable of true love of another person?

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1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

You were always wondering if and to what extent was it possible that Clarke, on some level was capable of true love of another person?

Spot on assessment. He definitely wanted wealth, power and recognition, yet sometimes it seemed that he was also able to love sincerely. Sometimes at least. LOL

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19 hours ago, BoldKara said:

271 and 283 have been replaced on YouTube, with 30 minute versions with black chunks for commercial placeholders. Better than the mess that was uploaded originally. They weren't deliberate cuts, just faulty uploads. If you dragged the timer along the bottom for the original uploads, you could see that the full episodes were there, you just couldn't watch them. You can't check that now they've been replaced, but that was the case, just faulty uploads, no deliberate cutting.

People complained in the comments for these episodes, so thankfully TPTB took notice and replaced.

ITA. It wasn't a censored episode or anything, there was clearly something wrong, possibly something went awry during the upload process (perhaps the perils of going directly from analog to YouTube without a digital conversion?). I noticed that the time stamp had thirty minutes, which is odd since the run times are usually 21 minutes or so, but at least there were no missing scenes or sequences, so I could deal with it and most, importantly, the slap was included this time.

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Does anyone know what stories Michael Minnis have heavily influenced or anything? He’s been labeled as co hw since 2004, and I have yet to see what he does.

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