Members dc11786 Posted November 29, 2020 Members Share Posted November 29, 2020 The scenes are from different episodes. I have the scene with Dennis Patrick and Delilah. That episode is January 10, 1984. I think the role was a dayplayer. Delilah goes to seduce the guy, but Brad Vernon interrupts her. Brad, who she is sleeping with, has managed to get her a role in a music video. The episodes from around this time were not too engaging. A lot of San Carlos talk between Simon Warwick and Asa's plot to retrieve his money through something called Christophore. Did anyone really enjoy this period? The cast is pretty strong, but the story isn't all that great. Sam Hall and Henry Sleasar are credited as the headwriters. I did enjoy the little romance that was blooming between Rafe and Sam. They seemed like a sweet couple. Most of the rest of the story seems pretty forgettable. The Simon Warwick stuff was the hardest to swallow (fictional South American country, plastic surgery, David Renaldi - savior of political refugees). Wasn't this all tied into Judith McConnell's Eva Vasquez. The only things I did appreciate of this nonsense were Viki treating this storyline like the trash it is and the appearance of Pamela Lincoln as Suzanne Allardyce, Simon's mother. Lincoln plays these second tier washed out divas pretty well, but this seems like such a nothing role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfave06 Posted November 29, 2020 Members Share Posted November 29, 2020 Kind of disappointing Sam Hall and Henry Slesar did not have much going on in their tenure. Did anyone see any lost potential story wise in 82-85 before Rauch reset the show? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mona Kane Croft Posted November 29, 2020 Members Share Posted November 29, 2020 Wasn't there a dropped storyline that included Ivan Kipling and a group of teenagers? I remember Jon Hensley was part of that group, and also one or two of the McNeil sisters. Although I was never a fan of Ivan Kipling (OLTL did not need its own version of Stefano Dimera), I was sort of into this storyline. Then, if I'm not mistaken, it was dropped with absolutely no explanation or wrap-up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted November 29, 2020 Members Share Posted November 29, 2020 @slick jones @dc11786thank you for the help with the dates. I will credit you on the video. The judge will always be Rebedow from Oz to me. A lot of this period is a blur. I'm not sure how I would feel if I could watch it all day by day. Shelley was too gorgeous and charismatic to make you believe Delilah wasn't already a huge star. I didn't know she and Brad were an item... Wasn't this also the period that Liz Hubbard had a bit role. I guess Jean Arley or whoever was in charge at the time was doing the type of guest stunt casting that many other soaps would do later on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rlj Posted November 29, 2020 Members Share Posted November 29, 2020 That Kipling story involved, Cassie, Rob, Joy, Dan, and random chick I don't member lol, and Jon Hensley I don't recall Brad and Delilah ever dating or having sex, just good friends! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danfling Posted November 30, 2020 Members Share Posted November 30, 2020 Gabriella, the adoopted Italian daughter of Bo, was the other girl who was living the house where Dan was. I don't think that Gabrielle and Brad were together. I only remember her with Asa, Bo, and Rafe. As far as dropped storylines, I think that there was a lot of storyline for the African American characters. However, upon the dismissal of Ellen Holly (Carla), Al Freeman, Jr. (Ed), Lillian Hayman (Sadie), Josh Davis (Dr. Josh Hall) and his girlfriend Lisa (who was late on the serial General Hospital),these characters' stories were dropped. Even Eriq LaSalle was on the show involved with them for a while. I think that a lot of their storyline (Carla's and Josh's) were tranposed into storyline for Judith Sanders and Jamie Sanders, and possibly for Elizabeth Sanders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfave06 Posted November 30, 2020 Members Share Posted November 30, 2020 How devastating! I wasn't even alive at the time but have seen as much of the late 80s as possible and enjoy the camp but the biggest issue was the erasing of the diverse landscape and the lack of a family outside of the Buchanans that worked. Jamie and Elizabeth provided a lot of fun but were not worth losing the Halls for. They lost a lot of potential with not putting Blair Underwood on contract immediately and I thought Lisa was an absolute spitfire. So many possibilities with Bobby/Lisa/Josh lost. And Blair Underwood and Andrea Evans had a lot of chemistry too. Did anyone feel like losing Brad Vernon and Marco Dane was a loss? They were C characters by the time they left but they seemed to be essential pot stirrers in the late 70s and early 80s who were faded out. Would anyone consider Delilah watered down by the time she married Rafe? I haven't seen much of her pre-86 but she seemed like she changed a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted November 30, 2020 Members Share Posted November 30, 2020 Giulietta Fellini (?sp)) played by Fabiana Udenio is the girl you are referring to. Delila was with Asa, Bo, and Rafe It was the Hall/Gray family's screen time, not storylines that the Sanders filled. There was room for both, but I would have kept the Hall/Gray family and only brought in the Sanders ladies (Judith, Kate, Elizabeth. I would have waited to see their success before bringing in boring Charles and psycho Jamie (not to mention the illegit Geoffrey). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mona Kane Croft Posted November 30, 2020 Members Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Carla had become an attorney very quickly, and it didn't really make sense. I think they made her a lawyer because they were not interested in writing any personal storylines for her. So at least she could get some airtime as a lawyer. Then wasn't she in the middle of a murder trial (or some kind of trial), when she suddenly had to leave town, and another lawyer replaced her? If I recall correctly, she didn't even have any good-byes with the other characters -- she was just gone. I thought it was odd they didn't at least wait until the end of the trial. Am I right about all this? It's been 35 years. LOL. Edited November 30, 2020 by Neil Johnson 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amybrickwallace Posted November 30, 2020 Members Share Posted November 30, 2020 In late 1983/early 1984, between TD and ATWT, she played a society matron named Estelle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted November 30, 2020 Members Share Posted November 30, 2020 Estelle Chadick, whose daughter , Muffy Critchlowe, was played by none other than Murphy Brown and Hope and Faith star, Faith Ford. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soapfave06 Posted November 30, 2020 Members Share Posted November 30, 2020 There used to be scenes available on YouTube where Carla says goodbye to Ed on a dinner date, saying that she and Sadie were leaving town. They share a run in with Dorian but not sure if she says goodbye to Dorian. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mona Kane Croft Posted November 30, 2020 Members Share Posted November 30, 2020 Are you sure that isn't from the first time Carla left town? I don't know what year it was, but I believe the actress was fired two times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jagger1966 Posted December 1, 2020 Members Share Posted December 1, 2020 Regarding the Ivan Kipling storyline, the other girl living in the house with Cassie, Rob, Danny, ect. was Annie Barnes who was played by Rebecca Schaeffer, the young actress who later starred on My Sister Sam and was murdered by an obsessed fan in 1989. Annie and Danny left town together in the fall of 1985. When he returned the following year I don't believe he ever mentioned Annie again. I also remember Giulietta, although I don't remember how she was written off the show. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slick jones Posted December 1, 2020 Members Share Posted December 1, 2020 I remember Annie-- her mother Charlie was played by Ann Wedgeworth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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