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AMC and OLTL Canceled!

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I'm listening to the new Daytime Confidential Podcast (on itunes, but not on the website yet.) Jamey talks about Ricky Paull Goldin getting mad at him on twitter. :lol:

You know--I'm not a Ricky fan and yet... WTF? Jamey's an idiot--I still feel Ricky has every single right to rile into him.

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It's the AMC fans I really feel for. They have only a couple months left to shoot, a bunch of poor stories already in motion, and a clusterfuck behind the scenes. If Lorraine Broderick can salvage that in record time - unlikely with Julie Carruthers handling the logistics - she is a miracle worker. Say what you will about Ron Carlivati who has had many a lowlight since 2008, but he knows and loves that show and there has always been at least one story I enjoy; OLTL is, I feel, on a bit of an upswing again, and what's more they clearly began planning for the end and the end couples some time ago, even if the couples aren't always what I would want (John and Natalie - please no). I can believe they will bring back a lot of people and do their best to do right by them. I'm not too worried about us. It's AMC I fear for.

I don't feel the show's in as bad a situation as you--Rylee aside (OK and Ricky) they've actually built up a lot of decent B level stories and situations. I know OLTL and AMC fans always measure to see who's is bigger, but I think even in three months there's more to establish Pine Valley than there is for Llanview.

I agree, LB is going to have to work miracles to wrap things up in just 4 months

Cuz OLTL has so many places to go except Vicki/Clint, Todd killing nuTodd and the Ford bros posing shirtless?

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I wonder if years from now AMC fans will look back and try to figure out at what moment the show "jumped the shark." I think that Erica's un-abortion has to be considered a prime contender for that prize.

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Why don't I believe this fully or perhaps people are still stunned or in denial?

krisalderson Everyone is in super high hopes at the studio. We still have 7 months together & 7 months to share great stories w/characters you love about 3 hours ago via web

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Someone named LaLucci fan on twitter (no it's not me :lol: ) wrote to Rosie O'Donnell about Brian Frons:

LaLucciFan SoapDiva

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@Rosie Was Brian Frons horrible to work for during your time at The View? He treats soap actors like crap

Rosie Rosie O'Donnell

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@LaLucciFan - not at all - i enjoyed him

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I wonder if years from now AMC fans will look back and try to figure out at what moment the show "jumped the shark." I think that Erica's un-abortion has to be considered a prime contender for that prize.

Definitely, but I think its very hard to pin down any specific moment that sealed this show's fate. Combination of OJ in 1995, recycling visions of writers over and over again (namely Megan McTavish), incompetent executives, changing dynamics within the demographics, evolving mediums.... etc.

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Why don't I believe this fully or perhaps people are still stunned or in denial?

krisalderson Everyone is in super high hopes at the studio. We still have 7 months together & 7 months to share great stories w/characters you love about 3 hours ago via web

Well 7 months is better than 4 months. So I'm glad they're accentuating the positive.

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Definitely, but I think its very hard to pin down any specific moment that sealed this show's fate. Combination of OJ in 1995, recycling visions of writers over and over again (namely Megan McTavish), incompetent executives, changing dynamics within the demographics, evolving mediums.... etc.

It was a slow erosion--I think hiring Pratt was the final bit.

When did OLTL jump the shark?

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There's something about Matt Borlenghi that I don't trust or like:

I knew him briefly before his AMC days, and again briefly got reacquainted with him maybe seven or eight years ago, and he is a good guy. He was always friendly, down to earth, not full of himself at all.

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When did OLTL jump the shark?

When Michael Malone left for the first time. Even I have to admit the show fell apart completely when Leah Laiman & Jean Passanante succeeded him as Co-HW's (w/ Peggy Sloane), and I'm not even a MM fan!

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Definitely, but I think its very hard to pin down any specific moment that sealed this show's fate. Combination of OJ in 1995, recycling visions of writers over and over again (namely Megan McTavish), incompetent executives, changing dynamics within the demographics, evolving mediums.... etc.

I think all the soaps jumped the shark between the mid to late 90s.

AMC ratings definitely crashed on the OJ trial combined with the surge of DAYS and James E. Reilly. So many shows were trying to copy the DAYS formula back then and doing it so poorly. It was just a horrific and sad situation. What fit DAYS was a fit for DAYS not for any other soap. AMC never fully recovered. Daytime never fully recovered. There were so few creative surges for any of the soaps once the 90s ended.

McTavish kept AMC in the top 4 in 18-49 through half of 2007. AMC fell out of any type of real grace in 18-49 with B & E in 2007.

The mid to late 90s. OJ's trial brought cable TV and news to a new level. The internet was hitting its young stride around then, too. Reality TV was emerging. Too many other options. And with that too many PTB's thinking how do we copy this formula to get those viewers? how do we copy that formula to get hose viewers?

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