So basically Amy returns to GC after.. almost 40 years? I mean.. no Nathan and no Paul. what's the point of bringing her back.. ? 

Lily & Sharon ever interacted? If so, what's the air date on their first time meeting?

Edited October 10, 20241 yr by fivethej

3 minutes ago, fivethej said:

Lily & Sharon ever interacted? If so, what's the air date on their first time meeting?

 

I can't recall Sharon and Lily's first interaction, but I would recommend you start skimming recaps from 8/15/02 which was Christel Khalil's first airdate. Probably a random scene at the coffeehouse.

This is so intense and amazing.  I can watch this scene only once in a while because my heart gets torn to shreds.

 

 

Did anyone record the Michelle Stafford anniversary episode. It should hopefully be filled with classic clips.

On 10/8/2024 at 8:53 AM, asafi said:

So basically Amy returns to GC after.. almost 40 years? I mean.. no Nathan and no Paul. what's the point of bringing her back.. ? 

Not only that, but it’s a recast. The only way you could make this work is if Stephanie Williams returned so you could at least use flashbacks to establish that she existed. 
 

I also don’t like that they cast a light skinned actress who looks nothing like Williams. That’s something daytime has done many times which irritates me. Hell, Williams and Pettiford have already swapped roles once before, except Williams was the recast in that case. They didn’t even try to make sense of this recast. 

8 hours ago, Chris B said:

Not only that, but it’s a recast. The only way you could make this work is if Stephanie Williams returned so you could at least use flashbacks to establish that she existed. 
 

I also don’t like that they cast a light skinned actress who looks nothing like Williams. That’s something daytime has done many times which irritates me. Hell, Williams and Pettiford have already swapped roles once before, except Williams was the recast in that case. They didn’t even try to make sense of this recast. 

Yes, that irritates me as well and the folks at Y&R either don’t realize this or they simply don’t care how colorist this looks.
Years ago, even KSJ made a pointed critique of Y&R repeatedly doing this. I am not sure whether he spoke of this in that podcast interview before or after Y&R diminished his role on the show but regardless of his impetus to speak on it, he was spot on in calling it out.

From what I have noticed in recent years, the other remaining soaps do this as well but none so blatantly as Y&R, it seems.

Edited October 19, 20241 yr by DramatistDreamer

On 9/11/2024 at 12:32 PM, Maxim said:

We'll see.

Honestly no. Y&R is not as popular as it used to be 20 years ago. It still airs in France but in the morning now and don't think this is a success anymore.

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Years ago, even KSJ made a pointed critique of Y&R repeatedly doing this

Was he referring to recasts or roles in general? Because I can't think of any.

It's fairly common for lighter skinned actors to be cast across the industry, especially back then.

Although Darius was darker complected than Shemar. But that was just a wierd recast on so many levels.

4 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Was he referring to recasts or roles in general? Because I can't think of any.

It's fairly common for lighter skinned actors to be cast across the industry, especially back then.

Although Darius was darker complected than Shemar. But that was just a wierd recast on so many levels.

He wasn’t talking about recasts at all but the propensity of Y&R to cast roles for Black characters with mixed actors. 
When you say “back then” do you mean the 1990s? Because it wasn’t standard practice in the 1980s. Since Y&R still does this, there is no back then, it still occurs.
I don’t think this is something that white people think about much but when you limit your casting choices to essentially one or two phenotypes, you diminish the spectrum of that group and what constitutes the diversity of that group. We are not a monolith and it’s borderline insulting when we are treated as such.

15 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

He wasn’t talking about recasts at all but the propensity of Y&R to cast roles for Black characters with mixed actors. 
When you say “back then” do you mean the 1990s? Because it wasn’t standard practice in the 1980s. 

Going by original actors, not recasts.

1980s: Marguerite Ray, Brock Peters, Stephanie Williams, Jon St. Elwood, Phil Morris, Nathan Purdee all monoracial African-American AFAIK.

1990s: Victoria Rowell, KSJ, Shemar Moore all biracial w/ African-American father and white mother. Tonya Lee Williams Jamaican.

2000s: Christel Khalil biracial w/ Pakistani father and African-American mother. Bryton James biracial w/ African-American father and white mother.

2010s: Mishael Morgan Trinidadian.

1 hour ago, asafi said:

SO rich in every facet. SO rich.

4 hours ago, kalbir said:

Going by original actors, not recasts.

1980s: Marguerite Ray, Brock Peters, Stephanie Williams, Jon St. Elwood, Phil Morris, Nathan Purdee all monoracial African-American AFAIK.

1990s: Victoria Rowell, KSJ, Shemar Moore all biracial w/ African-American father and white mother. Tonya Lee Williams Jamaican.

2000s: Christel Khalil biracial w/ Pakistani father and African-American mother. Bryton James biracial w/ African-American father and white mother.

2010s: Mishael Morgan Trinidadian.

Tonya Lee Williams is Afro Canadian Jamaican.

Mishael is Afro and Indo-Trinidadian, aka “Dougla”.

 

22 hours ago, asafi said:

One thing I love about old school Y&R - and about Bill Bell's writing in general - is how you can close your eyes and still get so much from his (and Kay Alden's) dialogue.  Bell knew how to make every word in the script count.