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26 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

The ironic thing is that I thought Y&R was also criticized around this time for not doing enough love scenes?? They said GH had the more “raunchy” sex scenes compared to “conservative” Y&R? Or something like that. 

 

You're exactly right.  Y&R didn't exactly have "couples" and "love scenes" like some of the shows did.  What they were doing instead was flaunting everyone's "assets".  They had Nikki stripping at the Bayou, Jerry Cashman working as a male prostitute (including a scene where Cash interviewed other potential male prostitutes by having them all strip down to their bikini briefs and stand in a line), many of the women doing dramatic scenes without bras, Snapper and Lucas prancing around with their shirts unbuttoned and sleeves rolled up over their biceps, Nikki and Paul butt-naked in the showers at the YMCA with a whole team of basketball players walking in.   The show had always been known for having a "sensual, languid appearance", but in the early 1980s, as John Kelly Genovese noted, it was beginning to look more like t!ts and azz titillation than sensuality.  By about 1983, they got back more "centered" I guess.  

 

(I'd guess it was the exit of John Conboy as executive producer and the arrival of Wes Kenney which halted so much of the sexual titillation that seemed geared toward adolescent boys and girls, and it was probably the arrival of Sally Sussman as story consultant/script editor that halted the cringe-worthy dialogue such as "you're playing mind games on me, you're doing a number on me, you're laying something real heavy on me, God I feel so out of it today.")  

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14 hours ago, Broderick said:

 

But remember how big the BUDGET was back then.  Aaron probably was literally an Under Five in that episode.  

 

No doubt Lorie is sauntering around (braless) in a $10,000 low-cut blouse from Giorgio's of Beverly Hills.   She's posing and preening and sighing heavily, displaying the expensive blouse in each long shot, and she takes the opportunity to jiggle her breasts 60 miles per hour whenever Frank Pacelli lets her know he's pulling away for a longshot to showcase the blouse as a courtesy to Giorgio's.  

 

Lilibet Stern (Patty) is smiling and pouting in another high-priced Giorgio's blouse, and Wes Kenney is making sure to get plenty of shots of her supple, perky breasts, as well.  Not to be outdone, Terry Lester (Jack) probably bends over to pick up his briefcase and gives us a long, slow butt shot.  

 

Tom Ligon (Lucas) probably has on a $100 Giorgio's shirt, which he's strategically unbuttoned all the way down to his belly button.  He's probably wearing a pair of tight white slacks.  Frank Pacelli is likely taping Lucas from the back in several shots, so that Tom Ligon can flex his butt cheeks for us. 

 

Chris Brooks is probably having a super-expensive photoshoot at Jabot with Joe Blair, featuring about ten different outfits from Giorgio's.  Joe is bending around and showing us his blue-jean clad bottom, while Chris is wiggling her perky little breasts at warp speed in each different Giorgio's ensemble. 

 

Then we're at the hospital with Chuckie and Sally.  David Hasselhoff probably has on scrubs, but his shirt is open all the way down his goozle to show us his chest.  

 

Evidently, at the Chancellor house, Kay Thurston is presiding over a sparkling, shimmering dinner party for Nikki, Kevin, and Kevin's parents, including real food that's being served by Esther.  Jeanne Cooper is likely decked-out in an evening gown from Giorgio's of Beverly Hills, with mores sparkling jewelry than you can shake a stick at.  Melody Thomas is probably wearing a low-cut Giorgio's gown that's slightly less "showy" than Jeanne Cooper's gown, but she's making it up for it by leaning onto the table with her breasts heaving right into the champagne.  Chris Holder (Kevin) is probably standing up to make a toast and flexing his butt for us during the long shot.  

 

That's just the way they all rolled back then.  lol.  

 

 

 

 

20 minutes ago, Broderick said:

 

You're exactly right.  Y&R didn't exactly have "couples" and "love scenes" like some of the shows did.  What they were doing instead was flaunting everyone's "assets".  They had Nikki stripping at the Bayou, Jerry Cashman working as a male prostitute (including a scene where Cash interviewed other potential male prostitutes by having them all strip down to their bikini briefs and stand in a line), many of the women doing dramatic scenes without bras, Snapper and Lucas prancing around with their shirts unbuttoned and sleeves rolled up over their biceps, Nikki and Paul butt-naked in the showers at the YMCA with a whole team of basketball players walking in.   The show had always been known for having a "sensual, languid appearance", but in the early 1980s, as John Kelly Genovese noted, it was beginning to look more like t!ts and azz titillation than sensuality.  By about 1983, they got back more "centered" I guess.  

 

(I'd guess it was the exit of John Conboy as executive producer and the arrival of Wes Kenney which halted so much of the sexual titillation that seemed geared toward adolescent boys and girls, and it was probably the arrival of Sally Sussman as story consultant/script editor that halted the cringe-worthy dialogue such as "you're playing mind games on me, you're doing a number on me, you're laying something real heavy on me, God I feel so out of it today.")  

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Does anyone have these episodes complete?

2007-09-25

2007-09-06

2007-08-07

2007-08-06

2007-08-03

2007-06-15

 

2006-11-03

2006-05-12

 

2005-10-28

2005-08-16

2005-08-15

2005-08-12

2005-08-11

2005-07-19

2005-06-16

2005-06-15

2005-06-14

2005-05-25

2005-04-15

2005-04-14

2005-04-13

2005-04-12

2005-04-07

2005-04-06

2005-04-04

2005-04-01

2005-03-23

2005-03-14

2005-02-14

2005-02-11

2005-02-07

2005-01-26

2005-01-11

2005-01-10

2005-01-05

2005-01-04

2005-01-03

 

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@Bundy1965

I have these from your list, I'll upload them to the vault. I hope someone else has the rest because I need those too.

 

2008-10-24 

2008-01-02 - LQ

2007-12-03 - LQ

2005-10-28

2005-05-25 - partial

2005-04-04 - partial/French/English

2005-03-30

2005-03-24

2005-03-21

 

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16 hours ago, fivethej said:

Does anyone have these episodes?

 

March 5, 1997
August 12, 2004 - English version
August 19, 2008

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately no.

8 hours ago, Bundy1965 said:

@fivethej

I have this

 

August 19, 2008

 

and upload it to the vault.

 

Thank you!

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Does anyone have these episodes? Got the air date incorrect on the one that was uploaded by the angel. My bad 😥

 

September 22, 2008

September 23, 2008

February 22, 2016

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, fivethej said:

Does anyone have these episodes? Got the air date incorrect on the one that was uploaded by the angel. My bad 😥

 

September 22, 2008

September 23, 2008

February 22, 2016

 

 

 

 

I will upload them

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A date problem:

2000-02-11 is the same episode as 2000-02-10 in the vault.

 

Soap Central has the same recap for these days.

 

RR has it as 11th and 2000-02-09 as 10th, Imdb the same

 

What do we do?

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17 hours ago, Bundy1965 said:

I will upload them

 

Do you have these? Sorry, I hate to bother you.

February 9, 2016

June 29, 2007

Thank You for uploading those ones!!

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I rarely go back to the post 2000 episodes, but I saw there’s lots of 2004 in the vault and I wanted to revisit Joan Van Ark’s Gloria so I’ve been binging. I know many don’t consider this to be the best, but I think it was Y&R’s last great year and it holds up well.

2004 doesn’t seem that far away, but when you look at the level of production values it seems as far away as the 80s or 90s episodes. I find it hard to believe this is even the same show. The endless sets, the size of these sets, the lighting, the diversity of sets and locations in each episode. The direction is sharper, the clothing and hair is better. Everybody doesn’t interact so you can tell the class level of the different groups. All of the personality has been drained from this show. 
 

It’s striking to see how vibrate the characters that are still on are here. The Newman’s before Adam destroyed that family, a normal Abbott family with Brad and Mamie still included, the Winters family. Great supporting characters like Larry Wharton and Grace. Actual teens with story. 
 

I literally wanted to see a couple glimpses of Joan Van Ark and wasn’t expecting episodes from 2004 to make me so nostalgic. And for the record she still remains the superior Gloria. They should’ve offered her the rehearsal time and limited schedule she needed. The entire Baldwin-Fisher family unit is so much more likable as outsiders with a dark edge. Greg Rikaart is just electric in these scenes!

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19 hours ago, Bundy1965 said:

A date problem:

2000-02-11 is the same episode as 2000-02-10 in the vault.

 

Soap Central has the same recap for these days.

 

RR has it as 11th and 2000-02-09 as 10th, Imdb the same

 

What do we do?

I think they are really the 10th and 11th, because that's how they are listed on archive.org.

 

We have another conflict, the uploads the vault for 2001-08-08 and 2001-08-09 are the same.

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