3 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I noticed he wasn't in the credits. I guess he and Katherine must have called it quits too offscreen if we are to assume he went back to San Francisco. 

 

Week of Oct 3, 1983 synopsis has him in Japan. When Allison goes missing with Victoria, someone calls him (probably Kevin) to see if he knows where Allison is, seems to be his last appearance

Edited August 25, 20205 yr by will81

12 minutes ago, will81 said:

Week of Oct 3, 1983 synopsis has him in Japan. When Allison goes missing with Victoria, someone calls him (probably Kevin) to see if he knows where Allison is, seems to be his last appearance

Thanks! I wonder if we saw him in "Japan" talking to Kevin. 

23 hours ago, will81 said:

Hey everyone. Some more Jill clips not included in the vault uploads. The first a collection of scenes from Jun/Jul 1984. The second is two clips, one from when Ashley fired Lindsey and another from when Lindsey confronts Jill and Jack after Jack reveals all about the wedding. Chunks of this are seen in vid 60a but this clip has bits cut out

 

If anyone is missing the scenes from Jul 84 when Dina and Jill wait for John and the outcome of the contested divorce, I can upload those too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks!!! Loving the cattiness.

 

Is this the clip you were talking about?

 

35 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

Thanks! I wonder if we saw him in "Japan" talking to Kevin. 

Here is the synopsis as written, it is possible Kevin or whoever called him simply relayed the information.

 

'Earl, who's in Japan, insisted he hasn't heard from Allison'

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he was seen briefly. 

29 minutes ago, BoldRestless said:

 

Thanks!!! Loving the cattiness.

 

Is this the clip you were talking about?

 

Yep that was it. 

1 hour ago, will81 said:

Here is the synopsis as written, it is possible Kevin or whoever called him simply relayed the information.

 

'Earl, who's in Japan, insisted he hasn't heard from Allison'

 

I wouldn't be surprised if he was seen briefly.

Thanks! I wonder if we will see that seem in the 83 clips!

Man Y&R was really ripping off GH with those mob scenes! The ones I just watched with Paul, Andy and Jazz trapped in the office with the electrified doors and the poison gas set off by Tony's henchman were VERY un-Bill Bell IMO. 

@YRfan23 Agree that the mob story is way too General Hospital/Days. If the clips get into 1985, we might see Tyrone in whiteface. That would not happen today.

 

Watched the fall 1984 clips, things are getting good. That meeting of Victor and Jack at Gina's, there were hints of the eternal feud to come. Was that their first meeting? I wonder how long Bill Bell would've kept the feud going had Terry Lester not left.

 

 

2 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

Thanks! I wonder if we will see that seem in the 83 clips!

I just re-checked, we see Victor tell Kevin to call Earl in Japan, but no scene of it happening, but I am pretty sure the vids miss a chunk of show after the Kevin/Victor scene

6 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

Seeing Ashley in clips pre Victor, I often don't get why Bill bell insisted on ruining and degrading Ashley's character with the Victor pairing?  

 

Nikki being drawn to Victor made sense based on the 2.5 years of story pre dating her meeting Victor....but I just could never buy Ashley being drawn to him.

 

As badly as it pains me to say this (because I ain't much of a fan of Eric Braeden), he was the only male actor on the show who could hold his own with Eileen Davidson in a believable fashion, aside from Terry Lester, who played her brother.  Ashley was given three different love interests between 1982 and 1984, and each of them was a dud.  There was the dude in the lab at Jabot (Brian Forbes), Eric Garrison and Marc Mergeron.   

 

Eileen Davidson was always "doing something" in her scenes --- rolling her eyes, scratching her head, biting her lip, twirling her hair around, exhaling loudly, rubbing her eyes.  Her three love interests just stood there with bewildered looks on their faces like stooges and allowed her to "steal" every scene that she was in.  They couldn't keep up with her.  They wouldn't try drowning her out.  They wouldn't try developing some interesting mannerisms of their own.  They just didn't play off her "technique" very well.   Terry Lester did, though, because he was full of quirky and bizarre mannerisms, just like Eileen was.  And Eric Braeden worked well with her, because he was older and was a more experienced actor.  So sadly, Ashley was stuck with him, because he was about the only choice at the time.   The ideal love interest for her would honestly have been Terry Lester, but he played her brother.  lol.   

Oh I dunno, that scene of Victor & Ashley at Gina’s from September-October 1984 had some great dynamic and chemistry to it, and certainly Ashley was intrigued by Victor. But at the time she still had her thing going with Marc Mergeron, so she wouldn’t see anything beyond that yet.

 

From what I’ve read, they wouldn’t become closer until March-April 1985 after Ashley has her breakdown re Brent Davis (which btw I hope gets uploaded in the clips) and Victor brings her back to the ranch to recuperate, which of course sets off Nikki’s jealousy and her trajectory towards Jack. The build for V&A is there and is somewhat realistic, albeit quicker than V&N. Nevertheless it is one of the factors of Y&R getting to #1 several times during the mid-80s, so Bill Bell was doing something right.

Eileen did get paired with a lot of duds. Jay Kerr who played Brian Forbes said he hated doing Y&R and thought it was bottom of the barrel where his acting career was concerned. I think he took it off his IMDB page. Where's his career now ?....LOL

 

Eileen said she loved working with Rod Arrants (Steven) and was sad when he was killed off. Rod adored her too and I assume they still talk to each other when they get the chance.  Eileen left the show after that. If I remember correctly, Brenda Epperson stepped in as the grieving took place. Eileen recommended her as her replacement. 

2 hours ago, SoapDope said:

Eileen did get paired with a lot of duds. Jay Kerr who played Brian Forbes said he hated doing Y&R and thought it was bottom of the barrel where his acting career was concerned. I think he took it off his IMDB page. Where's his career now ?....LOL

 

Eileen said she loved working with Rod Arrants (Steven) and was sad when he was killed off. Rod adored her too and I assume they still talk to each other when they get the chance.  Eileen left the show after that. If I remember correctly, Brenda Epperson stepped in as the grieving took place. Eileen recommended her as her replacement. 

 

I loved Brenda Epperson so much!!! she was a great Ashley! 

Now Brenda Epperson had chemistry with a lot of people...she had the sarcastic vibe of Eileen..but didn't have the dismissive vibe that Eileen had.

 

She had good rapport with both Jack's, Traci, John....and her end game pairing was Brad.  Only character that she didn't click with was Blade...and I think it wasn't her that was the problem.  Michael Tylo didn't fit on Y & R (he..like Shari Statuck were hired cause of their spouses...though Shari fit in the show...just not as Ashley)

3 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:

Now Brenda Epperson had chemistry with a lot of people...she had the sarcastic vibe of Eileen..but didn't have the dismissive vibe that Eileen had.

 

 

"Dismissive vibe" is a very good description of it.  

Eileen's Ashley often had this impatient "I don't have time for you" attitude.  I've always seen it as the defining trait of the Ashley character, but could never describe it except with the word "aloof'.  

 

So 63a in the vault has pretty much all the Christmas 1984 episode where Kay drunkenly crashes the Abbott dinner party. That whole scene was played beautifully - it’s worth watching just for Brenda Dickson’s facial expressions alone. Even the looks exchanged between Jack, Jill, Dina and Liz just said so many words.

 

One other thing I found amusing about that episode - that must be the only time I’ve ever seen Dina and Traci have any interaction whatsoever, and it felt so weird seeing that. I know they would share more scenes together in subsequent years, but it seems that any interaction Dina had with her children back then was limited to Jack and Ashley.

 

ETA: Btw, 1985 clips have started. We’re now seeing the Brent Davis storyline ramp up, which I’m quite excited about. I’ve only ever seen the March 1985 episode where Brent confronts Ashley in the garage, but never any of the storyline either side, so this is exciting for me.

Edited August 25, 20205 yr by OzFrog

Another Foster house sighting in January 1985, for those following its final waning appearances.  Brenda Dickson pops in wearing her fur coat, thrusts her breasts around everywhere, vamps and pouts, and begs Liz for $10,000.